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MTVN 30-10-2024 09:34 PM

Ali's obsession with the house divide
 
Poor Martha's barely been out the door 5 minutes and Ali is already fretting about one group 'protecting each other' and her being 'picked off'. It's not all about you Ali fgs

Meanwhile Segun, Hanah and Tom are just having a nice hug about him being safe and not even thinking about any of that stuff. Ali is trying to manufacture a divide that is barely there imo, certainly not enough for them to have any coherent control over who's up. And as for them never even having a chance to be evicted err did you notice who was up last week Ali? Did you notice who else was also there with you this week?

It also seems a big reason for her now costing up to Hanah as she thinks she needs to pull her away from the other group

Black Dagger 30-10-2024 09:35 PM

Lovely Ali just wanting to be safe and continue enjoying her experience on the show x

Crimson Dynamo 30-10-2024 09:36 PM

a really awful woman

Tizmee 30-10-2024 09:41 PM

Ugh! … I can’t with Ali … my list is endless… I just can’t! ….

Didn’t she, along with Dean, nominate 4 from ‘the other side’???

rusticgal 30-10-2024 09:51 PM

She loves a divide…but it’s just not going her way..:laugh:

She really is trying hard to lure Hanah…I just hope Hanah sees it.

Benjamin 30-10-2024 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11552832)
She loves a divide…but it’s just not going her way..:laugh:

She really is trying hard to lure Hanah…I just hope Hanah sees it.

I don’t think Hanah will ditch the guys.

Billy 30-10-2024 09:52 PM

I really started to come round to her but then she talks about being picked off one by one when that literally hasn’t happened at all. If anything, she and Dean tried to do this when they were HOH but Emma literally put people up from all sides

MTVN 30-10-2024 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy (Post 11552835)
I really started to come round to her but then she talks about being picked off one by one when that literally hasn’t happened at all. If anything, she and Dean tried to do this when they were HOH but Emma literally put people up from all sides

Exactly and the ones she seems to have it in for have literally no power in there - Khaled keeps ending up for eviction, Marcello has been up, Thomas was just up, Hanah was up until Ali saved her

I don't even think all those people would vote the same way in nominations either tbh

rusticgal 30-10-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11552833)
I don’t think Hanah will ditch the guys.


You are probably right…as always :wavey:

Benjamin 30-10-2024 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11552851)
You are probably right…as always :wavey:

;)

But unless the guys target her, which I can’t see them doing, she won’t turn on them. She seems quite loyal.

Garfie 30-10-2024 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11552815)
Poor Martha's barely been out the door 5 minutes and Ali is already fretting about one group 'protecting each other' and her being 'picked off'. It's not all about you Ali fgs

Meanwhile Segun, Hanah and Tom are just having a nice hug about him being safe and not even thinking about any of that stuff. Ali is trying to manufacture a divide that is barely there imo, certainly not enough for them to have any coherent control over who's up. And as for them never even having a chance to be evicted err did you notice who was up last week Ali? Did you notice who else was also there with you this week?

It also seems a big reason for her now costing up to Hanah as she thinks she needs to pull her away from the other group


Exactly. I really do like Ali but I truly wish she could detach herself from this negative perception, and tinge of paranoia, she seems to be burdened with.

Everyone else this episode seemed to be focused on their appreciation of those they care most about in the house, in showing understanding of other’s feelings and in comforting each other, whereas as poor Ali’s mind seemed to lead her down a much more miserable path, and to a place I do not believe she can feel comfortable being.

Rather than coming from a place of nastiness, I do think it’s her underlying anxiety, insecurity and perhaps, overthinking, that makes her prone to this response to situations. This just makes me sad for her, as I’m not seeing any sense of happiness and enjoyment in her, which makes me feel she is constantly overwhelmed by a sense of unease. For her, I wish she could just let it go, fully relax and enjoy her experience more.

rusticgal 30-10-2024 10:23 PM

Yes I agree…I don’t think she trusts other women as she does the boys. I am hoping she sees through Ali’s game. Mind you Segan and Marcello are a bit up Ali’s arse too…

vesavius 30-10-2024 11:32 PM

The only reason anyone has any value to Ali in there is in their potential to be recruited to be a nom that she can control.

Benjamin 31-10-2024 05:27 AM

What I found funny was how Ali said the other group will pick them off like flies and they haven’t had a chance.

Has she forgotten last week two from the other side were up, and last night two from the other side were up and both times the public has backed the other side and taken someone from her side. It’s not the other side picking her side off, it’s the public. :laugh:

Beso 31-10-2024 07:21 AM

Another fantastic highlight show ruined by one misery guts.

vesavius 31-10-2024 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 11553022)
What I found funny was how Ali said the other group will pick them off like flies and they haven’t had a chance.

Has she forgotten last week two from the other side were up, and last night two from the other side were up and both times the public has backed the other side and taken someone from her side. It’s not the other side picking her side off, it’s the public. :laugh:

This is a war that Ali started and a divide that she created.

How upsetting it must be to then be losing so badly.

BBXX 31-10-2024 08:07 AM

She does seem to let it consume her, and I wish she's let it go. Sometimes it seems like she is, but other times not. I do think it's her own anxiety and paranoia and nothing more and to be honest, it's not surprising given the amount of time you have to think in that house.

However, I don't think she said much that wasn't wrong because she was talking about what's going to happen moving forward - she knows they are outnumbered and she knows they will support one another (she didn't criticise this, she just said they would which it true) and so she knows they're going to picked off one by one, which is left to normal nominations will happen.

She also said that she thought Emma was just being fair, which I thought was nice to do.

I also think she's merging to different things: because put up for eviction, and being saved. In her mind they lost Daze, Izaaz and now Martha - they are being picked off one by one but not so much by the HMs, but the public. It's just she is aware that the HMs will put them there, and the public will pick them off.

All of that is the truth. :shrug:

vesavius 31-10-2024 08:25 AM

In the end she is simply spooked by the dawning realisation that her little faction just isn't popular on the outside.

Beso 31-10-2024 08:29 AM

She said, emma may have been doing it to be fair.. not that she did do it to be fair.

BBXX 31-10-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11553096)
In the end she is simply spooked by the dawning realisation that her little faction just isn't popular on the outside.

I agree.

BBXX 31-10-2024 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11553097)
She said, emma may have been doing it to be fair.. not that she did do it to be fair.

She was giving her the benefit of the doubt without speaking like it was fact - I think that's pretty reasonable.

ebandit 31-10-2024 08:39 AM

.....................just when i was warming to ali embracing the red witch role..................

i guess ali can't help herself.................she's desperate to win...............her minds constantly whirring thinking how she can gain advantage

Mark L

Beso 31-10-2024 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11553101)
She was giving her the benefit of the doubt without speaking like it was fact - I think that's pretty reasonable.

No she gave about 4 possible reasons as to why the 4 if them were picked, your example that you've taken as her final decision was just one of about 4 she out put there. She didn't come to a conclusion.

Ammi 31-10-2024 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11553089)
She does seem to let it consume her, and I wish she's let it go. Sometimes it seems like she is, but other times not. I do think it's her own anxiety and paranoia and nothing more and to be honest, it's not surprising given the amount of time you have to think in that house.

However, I don't think she said much that wasn't wrong because she was talking about what's going to happen moving forward - she knows they are outnumbered and she knows they will support one another (she didn't criticise this, she just said they would which it true) and so she knows they're going to picked off one by one, which is left to normal nominations will happen.

She also said that she thought Emma was just being fair, which I thought was nice to do.

I also think she's merging to different things: because put up for eviction, and being saved. In her mind they lost Daze, Izaaz and now Martha - they are being picked off one by one but not so much by the HMs, but the public. It's just she is aware that the HMs will put them there, and the public will pick them off.

All of that is the truth. :shrug:


…yeah, Ali does seem to be quite an ‘extreme’ of over thinker, really…I don’t know if that’s any big element of her personality outside of the house but it’s definitely displayed inside the house…and I think for me, it feels as though her overthinking/suspicions have well….just been so self destructive in ruining her time in the house in terms of being more open to make connections and not suspicious of motives…yes, other housemates have ‘game play’ but that’s only one aspect of their character and I feel that Ali in a way, with her over thinking…has started the whole experience on a wobbly footing, which she hasn’t been able to quite get her balance with…she’s an interesting person but overly guarded and over thinking…

Cherie 31-10-2024 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11553089)
She does seem to let it consume her, and I wish she's let it go. Sometimes it seems like she is, but other times not. I do think it's her own anxiety and paranoia and nothing more and to be honest, it's not surprising given the amount of time you have to think in that house.

However, I don't think she said much that wasn't wrong because she was talking about what's going to happen moving forward - she knows they are outnumbered and she knows they will support one another (she didn't criticise this, she just said they would which it true) and so she knows they're going to picked off one by one, which is left to normal nominations will happen.

She also said that she thought Emma was just being fair, which I thought was nice to do.

I also think she's merging to different things: because put up for eviction, and being saved. In her mind they lost Daze, Izaaz and now Martha - they are being picked off one by one but not so much by the HMs, but the public. It's just she is aware that the HMs will put them there, and the public will pick them off.

All of that is the truth. :shrug:

Daze was close to Hanah, and Izaaz was not part of any group?


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