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Mweed12345 17-11-2024 07:56 AM

Whilst I do like Ali
 
I’m happy she won but I also thought marcello was 100% correct in what he said to her,
She also came across appallingly and stand off ish in her interview.
Now, I do like her, but who actually does she think she is 🤣

Mystic Mock 17-11-2024 08:12 AM

Tbf she might've been nervous in the interview.

Don't forget she isn't a Celebrity who's media trained.

Mystic Mock 17-11-2024 08:13 AM

And welcome to the Forum btw.

moon_peach 17-11-2024 10:34 AM

She was literally just answering the questions they gave her honestly, which is more than we can say for any other housemate. I was disappointed with some of her answers, most specifically around Khaled, but if you actually listen to the content of what she said, most of it was fine.

She expressed that she found it difficult living with Marcello but thought he had nice qualities to him and that maybe they could get along in a different context. She specifically shouted out Segun because she’d genuinely enjoyed getting to know him over the last week, and explained that when she said she thought he was acting she meant that she felt he was holding back parts of himself and not always being honest (which is 100% true!). Again, she comes off ‘stand-offish’ because she’s autistic… That’s how we tend to come across. That’s not a reflection of how she actually feels. Whilst, yes, I do think she made some missteps in her answers about Khaled - she does still seem to think she has the authority to make quick judgements, and doesn’t understand how her early behaviour affected him, nor does she understand the influence she did have in the house - ultimately she said that whilst she didn’t regret her earlier feelings, she did regret giving Khaled so much flack and felt now that she should have let what irritated her go, especially when there are so many lovely parts of Khaled she could have focused on instead. That she now feels he’s a really lovely person.

When I first watched the interview I had a bit more of a negative perception of it, but when I watched it back yesterday and really focused on the words she was saying, I realised that actually most of what she said was kind and measured. There were things that annoyed me, sure, but to say she was appalling is unfair.

moon_peach 17-11-2024 10:34 AM

And I agree with the above comments, she was definitely very nervous.

Zizu 17-11-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mweed12345 (Post 11575637)
I’m happy she won but I also thought marcello was 100% correct in what he said to her,
She also came across appallingly and stand off ish in her interview.
Now, I do like her, but who actually does she think she is [emoji1787]


Sadly most of the things everyone ( including the housemates) disliked / hated about Ali are part of who she is as a neurodivergent individual .. that’s why so much of the toxic nastiness was just so unjust and upsetting.


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Zizu 17-11-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by moon_peach (Post 11575766)
And I agree with the above comments, she was definitely very nervous.


Nervous doesn’t do it justice .. extreme anxiety is a closer description and she suffered for the duration of the series .


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Zizu 17-11-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by moon_peach (Post 11575764)
She was literally just answering the questions they gave her honestly, which is more than we can say for any other housemate. I was disappointed with some of her answers, most specifically around Khaled, but if you actually listen to the content of what she said, most of it was fine.

She expressed that she found it difficult living with Marcello but thought he had nice qualities to him and that maybe they could get along in a different context. She specifically shouted out Segun because she’d genuinely enjoyed getting to know him over the last week, and explained that when she said she thought he was acting she meant that she felt he was holding back parts of himself and not always being honest (which is 100% true!). Again, she comes off ‘stand-offish’ because she’s autistic… That’s how we tend to come across. That’s not a reflection of how she actually feels. Whilst, yes, I do think she made some missteps in her answers about Khaled - she does still seem to think she has the authority to make quick judgements, and doesn’t understand how her early behaviour affected him, nor does she understand the influence she did have in the house - ultimately she said that whilst she didn’t regret her earlier feelings, she did regret giving Khaled so much flack and felt now that she should have let what irritated her go, especially when there are so many lovely parts of Khaled she could have focused on instead. That she now feels he’s a really lovely person.

When I first watched the interview I had a bit more of a negative perception of it, but when I watched it back yesterday and really focused on the words she was saying, I realised that actually most of what she said was kind and measured. There were things that annoyed me, sure, but to say she was appalling is unfair.


A perfect summary of the interview !


I wish I had your way with words .. and maybe I wouldn’t get myself into quite so much trouble


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BBXX 17-11-2024 10:59 AM

I think she is just socially awkward. I thought she gave some extremely well-balanced answers and was reflective, measured and fair.

Talulabelle 17-11-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11575641)
Tbf she might've been nervous in the interview.

Don't forget she isn't a Celebrity who's media trained.

None of them were though.

I didn't watch the interview but I'm guessing she got off lightly.

Zizu 17-11-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Talulabelle (Post 11575782)
None of them were though.

I didn't watch the interview but I'm guessing she got off lightly.


It was a balanced interview imho and Ali responded honestly ( as the vast majority would have expected )


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Zizu 17-11-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11575781)
I think she is just socially awkward. I thought she gave some extremely well-balanced answers and was reflective, measured and fair.


Exactly


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moon_peach 17-11-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11575771)
Nervous doesn’t do it justice .. extreme anxiety is a closer description and she suffered for the duration of the series .


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Yeah, I think people didn’t realise that because she comes across very composed and calm most of the time, but as a fellow autistic I could tell she was very anxious a lot of the time.

moon_peach 17-11-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11575772)
A perfect summary of the interview !


I wish I had your way with words .. and maybe I wouldn’t get myself into quite so much trouble


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Haha, thank you!

rusticgal 17-11-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mweed12345 (Post 11575637)
I’m happy she won but I also thought marcello was 100% correct in what he said to her,
She also came across appallingly and stand off ish in her interview.
Now, I do like her, but who actually does she think she is 🤣


He was completely right about her...I felt she sucked the life out of the house. Po faced most of the time and lacked any sense of humour...she really thought she was better than anyone...

moon_peach 17-11-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11575770)
Sadly most of the things everyone ( including the housemates) disliked / hated about Ali are part of who she is as a neurodivergent individual .. that’s why so much of the toxic nastiness was just so unjust and upsetting.


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100%. I think what a lot of people don’t understand about neurodivergence and especially autism is that what happens is non-autistic people read the autistic person completely inaccurately (and in a negative light).

So, for example, Ali’s reserve and lack of facial expressiveness gets read as coldness, judgement, rudeness or superiority, when that’s very likely not how she’s feeling at all. Her honestly expressing her perceptions of other people gets read as bitching and meanness, when most of the time she likely means her commentary as simply a neutral observation, and even when she does mean it as a criticism, it’s probably with care as opposed to being an attack. (Sure, sometimes she did have a little bitch but so did everyone).

Those are just two examples but there are so many. I think often when we bring up Ali being ND, people think we’re trying to ‘excuse bad behaviour’ - but the reality is that actually what we’re saying is a lot of Ali’s behaviour isn’t bad, it’s just being totally misread by people who don’t understand how autistic people function and communicate. (And there isn’t one right way to behave/one right neurotype either - as an autistic person it would often feel to me like neurotypical people were behaving badly, if I hadn’t by default had to learn and understand how they function and communicate, as they are the majority). And I absolutely have been willing to criticise certain behaviours of Ali’s, I can see her as a full, flawed human being like they all are.

moon_peach 17-11-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11575813)
He was completely right about her...I felt she sucked the life out of the house. Po faced most of the time and lacked any sense of humour...she really thought she was better than anyone...

Like, perfect example of what I’ve said in my above comment here!

FromBB8 17-11-2024 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11575772)
A perfect summary of the interview !


I wish I had your way with words .. and maybe I wouldn’t get myself into quite so much trouble


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I will gently point out that's because the original post acknowledges flaws and acceptance that Ali isn't perfect, and every criticism of her needs defending. Like all of us, she has faults and, like every other housemate, they will be magnified and analysed.

Talulabelle 17-11-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11575813)
He was completely right about her...I felt she sucked the life out of the house. Po faced most of the time and lacked any sense of humour...she really thought she was better than anyone...

Well put. She almost never said anything positive about any of the other housemates (except the obnoxious Lily of course). Even when, on those very rare occasions, she did, it was always qualified with a 'but ....' adding something negative, usually her opinion offered as fact.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 17-11-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mweed12345 (Post 11575637)
I’m happy she won but I also thought marcello was 100% correct in what he said to her,
She also came across appallingly and stand off ish in her interview.
Now, I do like her, but who actually does she think she is ��

Well now she's the winner of BB by doing F all and nobody in her midst will ever forget it heheh.
Therapy session -her to the person needing therapy
"Well as you know, I won big brother and being stuck in there for weeks my knowledge on human behaviour increased and was validated by my win so believe me when I say, you are wrong in your opinion" hehehe.

Zizu 17-11-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 11575849)
Well now she's the winner of BB by doing F all and nobody in her midst will ever forget it heheh.
Therapy session -her to the person needing therapy
"Well as you know, I won big brother and being stuck in there for weeks my knowledge on human behaviour increased and was validated by my win so believe me when I say, you are wrong in your opinion" hehehe.


Its illogical to claim she did nothing given you and a few others spent 6 weeks complaining about what she did , what and how she said something, what she was plotting and even what she was supposedly ‘thinking’ ( that last one tickled me )


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Zizu 17-11-2024 02:13 PM

Whilst I do like Ali
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11575813)

I felt she was Po faced most of the time and lacked any sense of humour......


Do some basic research on anxiety ..


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Zizu 17-11-2024 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mweed12345 (Post 11575637)
I’m happy she won but I also thought marcello was 100% correct in what he said to her,
She also came across appallingly and stand off ish in her interview.
Now, I do like her, but who actually does she think she is [emoji1787]


Stand offish ?

I’d say possibly guarded and justly so , given it was a live tv interview and she had just spent 6 weeks with a group of people she didn’t feel comfortable ( understatement) with ..


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GoldHeart 17-11-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11575813)
He was completely right about her...I felt she sucked the life out of the house. Po faced most of the time and lacked any sense of humour...she really thought she was better than anyone...

Yep
And somehow he's the 'bad guy' ,for simply stating facts. She always let Lily get away with bad behaviour, she even laughed when Lily broke the rules in the bedroom.

It's interesting though that she thought that little argument " wouldn't get aired", surely she knows BB will show anything they want.

rusticgal 17-11-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11575905)
Stand offish ?

I’d say possibly guarded and justly so , given it was a live tv interview and she had just spent 6 weeks with a group of people she didn’t feel comfortable ( understatement) with ..


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Why would you be guarded in an interview about your behaviour in a house watched by the public for 6 weeks....:shrug: Surely you would be just explaining your behaviour.

But then again if you call two genuine people Fake for no reason at all...and call out another for talking about sex but happy to spend your time and enable a 20 year old adult to scream like a banchee and eat the contents of her nose she was probably worried she might be called up for her hypocrisy..:laugh:


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