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arista 21-06-2025 12:04 PM

All Babies to have a DNA tests to check of good health
 
[All babies could have their DNA mapped
to test for future illnesses under a plan
unveiled by the government,
it has been reported. Labour is set
to pour £650m into DNA technology
in an effort to treat serious illnesses
before they become a problem.]


[Every newborn baby in the UK will have a
DNA screening as part of an NHS 'revolution'
to battle killer diseases.
The health secretary Wes Streeting said
new technology in areas such as genomics
would help 'leapfrog' illnesses.
The Government is set to pour £650 million
into DNA technology in an effort to
treat serious illnesses before
they become a problem.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...evolution.html

Yes, it makes some sense to do.


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Livia 21-06-2025 12:53 PM

Hmmm... Sounds like something that starts with good intentions then descends into the sinister. Maybe they could tattoo bar codes on them too so we know who's who.

arista 21-06-2025 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11660957)
Hmmm... Sounds like something that starts with good intentions then descends into the sinister. Maybe they could tattoo bar codes on them too so we know who's who.


Do not give them ideas

Kate! 21-06-2025 02:27 PM

This is a very bad idea. They are going to do treatments for things they might never get? Or give medication unnecessarily? No no no.

Crimson Dynamo 21-06-2025 02:43 PM

I am sure the NHS will be a safe and secure guardian for all the DNA samples

what with their up-to-date software etc

:skull:

joeysteele 21-06-2025 03:09 PM

Need to hear more about it but it seems to make sense and be a worthwhile project.

Glenn. 21-06-2025 05:18 PM

Imagine being more afraid of a genome map than a child dying from a preventable illness. People’s priorities are ****ed.

Kate! 21-06-2025 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11660987)
Imagine being more afraid of a genome map than a child dying from a preventable illness. People’s priorities are ****ed.

No, just don't see the point in putting a child through unnecessary treatments when it probably won't be needed!

Crimson Dynamo 21-06-2025 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11660987)
Imagine being more afraid of a genome map than a child dying from a preventable illness. People’s priorities are ****ed.

A few years ago you were quickly made terrified of catching a cold, got largely untested vaccines pumped into you and walked around with a paper muzzle on every time you went out

Id imagine you stood in your street banging a saucepan too

You trusted the science...
:skull:

Zizu 21-06-2025 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11660987)
Imagine being more afraid of a genome map than a child dying from a preventable illness. People’s priorities are ****ed.


I concur …


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Glenn. 21-06-2025 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11660991)
A few years ago you were quickly made terrified of catching a cold, got largely untested vaccines pumped into you and walked around with a paper muzzle on every time you went out

Id imagine you stood in your street banging a saucepan too

You trusted the science...
:skull:

Sorry you didn’t like the masks, must’ve been hard gasping for breath between coughing up nonsense on Facebook.

Glenn. 21-06-2025 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11660989)
No, just don't see the point in putting a child through unnecessary treatments when it probably won't be needed!

Unnecessary treatments? It’s called screening. Nobody’s jumping to give toddlers chemo for fun, calm down.

Mystic Mock 21-06-2025 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11660957)
Hmmm... Sounds like something that starts with good intentions then descends into the sinister. Maybe they could tattoo bar codes on them too so we know who's who.

We're getting more and more Dystopian.

So it wouldn't surprise me.

Kate! 22-06-2025 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11661034)
Unnecessary treatments? It’s called screening. Nobody’s jumping to give toddlers chemo for fun, calm down.

Oh look! You clearly saw that post. So I was right about you spouting garbage about not seeing anything I wrote.

Back on topic...why put them through screening then even when it's only a what if? Or putting them on medication as a preventative when they might never need it, eg if heart disease is in their DNA.

I don't agree with it. And don't tell me in a patronising fashion to calm down. Watch how you speak to people, it's damm rude. I was perfectly calm and reasoned in my post. You calm down instead.

Glenn. 22-06-2025 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11661059)
Oh look! You clearly saw that post. So I was right about you spouting garbage about not seeing anything I wrote.

Back on topic...why put them through screening then even when it's only a what if? Or putting them on medication as a preventative when they might never need it, eg if heart disease is in their DNA.

I don't agree with it. And don't tell me in a patronising fashion to calm down. Watch how you speak to people, it's damm rude. I was perfectly calm and reasoned in my post. You calm down instead.

I can still see ignored posts when I want to, and I decide if or when I bother responding. It’s called being in control, you should try it sometime.

And screening? It’s about knowing, not forcing treatments. Information doesn’t ‘traumatise’ a child, but ignorance sure can. Not that I expect you to comprehend the difference.

Anyway, you stay ‘calm and reasoned’ over there. The rest of us will stick with common sense and leave the pearl‑clutching to you.

arista 22-06-2025 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11661044)
We're getting more and more Dystopian.

So it wouldn't surprise me.

No, this makes sense
As the Technology finds out the truth,

Mystic Mock 22-06-2025 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11661087)
No, this makes sense
As the Technology finds out the truth,

This is fine imo.

I was talking about Livia's hypothetical future where babies have trackers implanted into them from birth, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if society went down that path.

arista 22-06-2025 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11661091)
This is fine imo.

I was talking about Livia's hypothetical future where babies have trackers implanted into them from birth, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if society went down that path.

For sure
down the road
anything can change

BBXX 22-06-2025 06:16 AM

I am personally 50/50 on this. On a very surface level, it seems like a good thing:

It's important to consider that they will only be looking for conditions that:
- are reliably detectable,
- would impact quality of life if left undetected,
- have proven improved outcome when intervention has been put in place before symptoms show
- have treatment available.

However this isn't perfect - on a totally basic level, this could effect things like travel insurance from birth, even if the symptoms aren;'t showing and could not effect someone for decades to come. There is also the very real threat of data-selling, potentially. It would need to have an incredibly tight security around it.

Having said all that, I would be lying if I said I trusted any Government at all, and particularly with health issues.

There was something extremely weird about the way in which governments manufactured and manipulated the fear and control during covid pandemic which will forever make me look at them suspiciously.

bots 22-06-2025 06:41 AM

am i the only one that is alarmed that this is announced at the same time as assisted dying passes in the commons?

bots 22-06-2025 06:54 AM

i can see a future where today's children are forced to accept treatment or they will lose future benefits, and that is just one thought. With the advances in AI, future generations are going to be targeted based on their genetics in all sorts of ways. Take it to its logical end point and it is like nazi's generating the super race.

Can people really sit here and say they trust the government and corporations and the wealthy to look after the publics interests

Ammi 22-06-2025 07:12 AM

…it feels very much like a ‘Big Brother’ type thing and it would be lovely to think that it’s all for good reasons and for the good of the people etc…but recent governments sadly have a leaning to act in their own interest/…not the interest of the people…more and more their actions are feeling like ‘control’ rather than care…it should feel quite positive bu it doesn’t for me, it feels quite scary…

arista 22-06-2025 07:15 AM

"it feels quite scary…"


Of course Ammi
it has the power of life or death.

Ammi 22-06-2025 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11661157)
"it feels quite scary…"


Of course Ammi
it has the power of life or death.

….handed over to our government who would struggle with the power of ordering a Saturday evening take-away…

Kate! 22-06-2025 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11661060)
I can still see ignored posts when I want to, and I decide if or when I bother responding. It’s called being in control, you should try it sometime.

And screening? It’s about knowing, not forcing treatments. Information doesn’t ‘traumatise’ a child, but ignorance sure can. Not that I expect you to comprehend the difference.

Anyway, you stay ‘calm and reasoned’ over there. The rest of us will stick with common sense and leave the pearl‑clutching to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11661091)
This is fine imo.

I was talking about Livia's hypothetical future where babies have trackers implanted into them from birth, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if society went down that path.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBXX (Post 11661109)
I am personally 50/50 on this. On a very surface level, it seems like a good thing:

It's important to consider that they will only be looking for conditions that:
- are reliably detectable,
- would impact quality of life if left undetected,
- have proven improved outcome when intervention has been put in place before symptoms show
- have treatment available.

However this isn't perfect - on a totally basic level, this could effect things like travel insurance from birth, even if the symptoms aren;'t showing and could not effect someone for decades to come. There is also the very real threat of data-selling, potentially. It would need to have an incredibly tight security around it.

Having said all that, I would be lying if I said I trusted any Government at all, and particularly with health issues.

There was something extremely weird about the way in which governments manufactured and manipulated the fear and control during covid pandemic which will forever make me look at them suspiciously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11661127)
am i the only one that is alarmed that this is announced at the same time as assisted dying passes in the commons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bots (Post 11661141)
i can see a future where today's children are forced to accept treatment or they will lose future benefits, and that is just one thought. With the advances in AI, future generations are going to be targeted based on their genetics in all sorts of ways. Take it to its logical end point and it is like nazi's generating the super race.

Can people really sit here and say they trust the government and corporations and the wealthy to look after the publics interests

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11661156)
…it feels very much like a ‘Big Brother’ type thing and it would be lovely to think that it’s all for good reasons and for the good of the people etc…but recent governments sadly have a leaning to act in their own interest/…not the interest of the people…more and more their actions are feeling like ‘control’ rather than care…it should feel quite positive bu it doesn’t for me, it feels quite scary…

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11661157)
"it feels quite scary…"


Of course Ammi
it has the power of life or death.

Far from me pearl clutching while everyone sides with you as you seem to think is the case, I'm actually the one talking commone sense and as you can see people are agreeing with me. Not you.


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