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Sod_James 07-09-2007 01:51 PM

Is Britain losing its identity?
 
OK so heres another hop topic open for discussion. With the amount of foreign people moving to the UK and UK people moving abroad do you think Britain is in dagner of losings its identity?

Do you think we do enough to maintain our culture and promote it to others?

All opinions welcome.

Shaun 08-09-2007 01:25 AM

Perhaps not completely related, but I think it is somehow - I reckon citizenship and more British History should be introduced to our childrens' syllabus.

hunter_speed 08-09-2007 01:56 AM

er... britain decided to loose its history after it decided to conqour every other country, even tho i still dont know what British Identity is apart from a Union Jack and a Rolls Royce

Scarlett. 08-09-2007 02:01 AM

Britains identity is
-Fish and Chips
-The Union Jack
-The Queen
-Blackpool
-London
-Manchester
-St Georges flag
and of course Coronation Street

Sod_James 08-09-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chewy
Britains identity is
-Fish and Chips
-The Union Jack
-The Queen
-Blackpool
-London
-Manchester
-St Georges flag
and of course Coronation Street
Lol yes i suppose so. although not to sure about Coronation Street lol.

I just think that our country and its people are so keen to understand and learn about new cultures and religon that we are forgetting our own.

Sunny_01 08-09-2007 03:06 PM

I think there is a little more to British culture than fish and chips lol

Here is a link to a site that talks about British culture etc....

http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...oms/questions/

Scarlett. 08-09-2007 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sod_James
Quote:

Originally posted by Chewy
Britains identity is
-Fish and Chips
-The Union Jack
-The Queen
-Blackpool
-London
-Manchester
-St Georges flag
and of course Coronation Street
Lol yes i suppose so. although not to sure about Coronation Street lol.

hehe :joker:

gracie24 08-09-2007 03:26 PM

In a word "yes"

The BNP reckon that by 2060, white people will be the minority in Britain.
People from other countries are trying to come to Britain and change the laws to suit them and their culture/religion, I find that extremely wrong and it annoys me.
If people from other countries want to live over here, they should follow Britains culture and Britains laws.

Britain is slowly losing its identity.

Bells 08-09-2007 03:43 PM

I’d probably have a biased view, but I definitely think that it’s worthwhile keeping an open mind in terms of other cultures and different people. It makes you more of a world citizen rather than closed-minded.

At the same time though, I think it’s important for people who move to other countries etc. to be appreciative of the fellow peoples’ beliefs, and for those people in turn to be tolerant of theirs. However ignorance seems to be becoming a lot more apparent these days and that’s where the problem lies: it’s also why countries such as Britain feel as if they’re losing their identity.

Retroman 08-09-2007 03:57 PM

I agree with what Gracie said...
It's a minor situation but i'll refer you to this:

Muslims demand prayer rooms in public buildings such as colleges.
The college gives into their demands at the risk of seeming prejudice against said Muslims.

Christians demand a prayer room [to be fair, christians don't seem to shout orders around to accomodate their beliefs in public buildings anyway.]
Christians are told by the college there's no call for it, that praying can be done anywhere and are refused a special room. Or the college simply ignores the request until everyone forgets about it.

It's situations like that, that cause the problem of ethnic "minorities" [soon to be majorities.] gaining everything they desire. Such as a mega mosque in London that's the size of several football stadiums so ive heard...a church of that size would never even be contemplated.

How can our country promote equality, when clearly certain people are gaining special treatment?

If we look at Big Brother, Germaine Jackson got away with calling Jade Goody and her mother WHITE trash..a direct comment about her skin colour. Jade Goody got in serious trouble for referring to a persons last name as a type of foreign food.

Also, if we look at other countries such as Japan...
The culture is VERY strong. We fail tremendously in comparison.

Nobody in politics or the government can speak up about the situation however, or they will be branded prejudice/racist instantly. Hence why the problem will never be addressed and we will continue to accomodate for people USING us to provide them with decent lives.

If coloured and ethnic people continue to increase their population to the point that they out number whites, will this still be classed as our country?
When all of those people stem from foreign countries.

Because if/when that day comes, we'll seriously have to start thinking about that.

gracie24 08-09-2007 04:39 PM

I would hate to be classed as a racist, but I'm just proud of where I come from and being British and I do not want to be the minority in my own country.
I do not have a problem with other people wanting to live in Britain, as Ash said, to be appreciative of other people's culture, etc. But when people come into Britain and want to change the laws to suit them, I find that wrong.
My main example is the situation with the burka's. Our laws should not have to be changed or altered or even a new law made to accomodate another culture!
It's the governments fault at the end of the day for letting so many people into our country who aren't willing to work and so are taking up homes.

Princess 08-09-2007 04:40 PM

You still have your own money and at least people see more to your culture than drinking,greeness and leprachauns.

Sod_James 08-09-2007 04:44 PM

This clearly a very topical matter at the moment and i dont think anyone should be called racist for wanting their country to maintain its idenity. How do you think we change this and is it possible or is it to late? Do the goverment need to get their act together and tackle this problem?

Bells 08-09-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Retroman
It's a minor situation but i'll refer you to this:

Muslims demand prayer rooms in public buildings such as colleges.
The statement's a bit over-generalised. If you're on about Muslims as a whole, you're in effect on about 19% of the world's population. And if in the UK, even so, many of that faith aren't in the same frame of mind. I will admit that the problem comes from both ends - and it's the clash between the beliefs as well as ignorance from both which is the problem.

Quote:

If we look at Big Brother, Germaine Jackson got away with calling Jade Goody and her mother WHITE trash..a direct comment about her skin colour. Jade Goody got in serious trouble for referring to a persons last name as a type of foreign food.
That particular incident was described in depth when it happened. Jermaine was in fact quoting fellow ex-contestant Leo.

Retroman 08-09-2007 04:53 PM

I don't think we need to address the issue of racism from anyone in this topic right now...
Im sure we're all mature enough to understand that it's possible to discuss the differences in the way coloured/ethnic/white people are treated, without being classed as racists.

We can change things by simply not giving anyone special treatment out of fear of being labelled prejudice/racist by the public. This would result in everyone being treated equally...
Not that we owe anyone anything, as we aren't treated fairly in many countries around the world. But we should ignore that and be the better people.

The government do need to sort out the problem, or they'll soon be faced with white people complaining that they're mistreated, rather than ethnic minorities etc...which means the problem transfers to us, citizens of our own country, which is just plain ridiculous.

I do however, think it's too late to be solved.
Or should I say, people are now so scared to do anything about it that they'll let it carry on.

As for Germaine Jackson, all I remember is him having a conversation purely orientated around him trying to comfort Shilpa..with no mention of Leo, just him insulting Jade and her mother to try and show his support for Shilpa.

And I don't think anyone else at the time recalled a mention of Leo? unless it's publically on video somewhere for me to watch.

Chri$ 08-09-2007 04:58 PM

I dont care about Britan now Its being taken over by Imigrents

I wanna live in the USA asap!

gracie24 08-09-2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ash
and it's the clash between the beliefs as well
I completely agree with that.

Harry! 08-09-2007 04:59 PM

:conf::conf::conf:

Bells 08-09-2007 05:03 PM

Retroman - I agree, and I definitely don't think anyone's said anything racist. The term is thrown around so loosely these days.
Just intelligent discussion.

And yeah, if you check in the CBB section for that particular incident, plenty was said about it.

Gracie - I'm glad you do. Because I think more than anything that's where the root of the problem is.

Retroman 08-09-2007 05:13 PM

Moving away from religion etc for a moment...
I don't think Britain has lost it's identity for such things as Blackpool, fish and chips, London, The Queen etc.

Although, we were once known for posh accents, good manners, and tea.
Now we're known for obesity, drunks, ill mannered people, swearing, common accents and single mums etc.

I do believe there's a great deal of freedom over here though in comparison to other countries...even more so than America. Mainly because America lives by the idea of the American Dream, which means a lot more of what people do over there is still classed as wrong.

geoking66 08-09-2007 08:16 PM

It's definitely not losing an identity. Honestly, here in the US, I think that we're losing more of an identity, but gaining the "stupid American" one which for the most part is actually true. Thank God I'm moving back to the UK soon enough.

spitfire 08-09-2007 08:35 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../27/dl2701.xml

:)tom:) 08-09-2007 10:33 PM

i agree with retro man about the fact that miniorities get what they want when they want because people fear of being branded a racist but if a white person asks for somthing it could be questioned.
i feel white people are put at a disidvantage for there skincolour more than anyone else.

Captain.Remy 08-09-2007 10:38 PM

The same thing is happening in France and Mr Sarkozy has decided to do something against that. Of course it's a scandal as he called "racist" but I do agree with him. France is scared about that, as Britain, our traditions have to be respected. Then if you want to go in France, you have to deserve it, it's what the President said and that's why he has been elected.

geoking66 08-09-2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sunshine30
The same thing is happening in France and Mr Sarkozy has decided to do something against that. Of course it's a scandal as he called "racist" but I do agree with him. France is scared about that, as Britain, our traditions have to be respected. Then if you want to go in France, you have to deserve it, it's what the President said and that's why he has been elected.
I know what you mean (but Ségolène Royal was much better than Sarkozy). It's political correctness that drives me crazy. Sure, be decent, that's common sense, but don't go hyperactive over making sure that you offend noöne.


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