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farhad 28-09-2007 07:57 PM

Did Nikki copy Jade
 
According to a FM, they claim Nikki copied Jade, what do everyone else think. Its strange as Nikki sounded nothing like Jade, and was by far a funny person, Jade Goody wasn't, and was quite bright, very good with vocabulary words and is very engaging.

Captain.Remy 28-09-2007 08:00 PM

Yes, as much as they were brilliant sometimes, they have been awful and ridiculous. Same type of housemates, they should have thought twice before going in BB.

Red Moon 28-09-2007 08:10 PM

Both Jade and Nikki are attention seekers. In the house they are remembered because we laughed at them rather than with them. They both were poorly educated and thought they could get their own way by shouting. Both said stupid things while in the house, more stupid than normal.

Nikki either copied Jade or they where similar characters.

Now given Nikki claims that Chanelle copied her. It is my opinion you could accuse Nikki of copying Jade.

There is the same level of proof.

xXxCharlottexXx 28-09-2007 08:12 PM

Well at least Nikki isn't thick as Jade thinking that East Anglia was abroad!

farhad 28-09-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Both Jade and Nikki are attention seekers. In the house they are remembered because we laughed at them rather than with them. They both were poorly educated and thought they could get their own way by shouting. Both said stupid things while in the house, more stupid than normal.

Nikki either copied Jade or they where similar characters.

Now given Nikki claims that Chanelle copied her. It is my opinion you could accuse Nikki of copying Jade.

There is the same level of proof.
Unless Nikki says East angular is abroad, than yes, but from what we saw from Chanelle and Charley they both used the Nikki mannerism, the "Who is She", the hand movements, I've never seen Jade Goodey using those hand movements, or those type of body language Nikki used, attention seeker yes, but totally different people is, but people could identify that Nikki is Nikki, and Jade is Jade, but you cannot identify who Channel is, more like thinking it's another Nikki.

Harry! 28-09-2007 08:15 PM

No.

KKBL 28-09-2007 08:19 PM

Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!

farhad 28-09-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!
Some evidence that Nikki sometimes comes accross as being accedemically educated, that was neither the case with Ms Piggy, she couldn't even pronounces Wales.:bigsmile:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KsjjzpB3pJA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDDKqGfaUk

farhad 28-09-2007 08:26 PM

Another thing is, a lot found it difficult to understand what Jade Goodey actually is saying, her speaking wasn't clear, and looks like she needs speech therapy, that never was the case with Nikki, you could always understand her.

Deirdre 28-09-2007 08:29 PM

i don't think she did.. i don't think she copied anyone.. i think she was her own person.. that's what made her so great!:dance:

farhad 28-09-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Both Jade and Nikki are attention seekers. In the house they are remembered because we laughed at them rather than with them. They both were poorly educated and thought they could get their own way by shouting. Both said stupid things while in the house, more stupid than normal.

Nikki either copied Jade or they where similar characters.

Now given Nikki claims that Chanelle copied her. It is my opinion you could accuse Nikki of copying Jade.

There is the same level of proof.
Your being out-voted:spin2:

farhad 28-09-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by patheticfool
i don't think she did.. i don't think she copied anyone.. i think she was her own person.. that's what made her so great!:dance:
Never seen Jade Goodey constantly going into the Diary to have a moan or haves comedy moment.

Captain.Remy 28-09-2007 08:30 PM

It'snot about what they said or how they acted.
It's about how their journey has been, what happened to them inside and outside.

Red Moon 28-09-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
Your being out-voted:spin2:
It's my opinion and the poll won't change it. :thumbs:

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Originally posted by farhad
Chanelle and Charley they both used the Nikki mannerism, the "Who is She", the hand movements
Of course they did they saw on her on Big Brother and so did their friends and incorporated her movements and sayings into thier lives making them their own. It's called mimicking and it common fort groups of people mimic each other. It's a tribal/pack instinct.

For example when I shared an office with someone from Liverpool years ago I took on their accent even though I don't come from anywhere near Liverpool. I just mimic the sounds they made unconsciously. Charley, Chanelle and their friends did the same sort thing through watching TV.

I bet if you went out on the streets you would find people now with mannerisms like Nikki and other housemates too. It's a cultural thing.

And I bet if you look around you would find that someone said her saying to Nikki before she said them herself. She didn't invent them she learnt them and then modified them. She doesn't have ownership or copyright on them even if she thinks she does.

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Originally posted by farhad
I've never seen Jade Goodey using those hand movements
You wouldn't have done, Jade came before Nikki and didn't exhilarate her movements as much a Nikki. She wasn't as desperate for attention. People wave there arms around to be seen and noticed.

In style both were the same sort of housemate, Nikki was loud, poorly educated and shouted a lot. Jade was the same. If it is fair for Nikki to say Charley and Chanelle copied her then Jade could say the same thing about Nikki.

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Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!
Nikki needs attention as much as Jade does if not more. It feeds her obsessive need for attention, hence all tantrums in the house. It's part of the reason Nikki plays the fool all the time. It's "look at me" syndrome.


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Originally posted by farhad
Another thing is, a lot found it difficult to understand what Jade Goodey actually is saying, her speaking wasn't clear, and looks like she needs speech therapy, that never was the case with Nikki, you could always understand her.
And Nikki doesn't need therapy for all her problems? Jade has dyslexia which would account for the incorrect pronunciation of some of word. She does hear the sounds the same way as normal people and so she make mistakes when speaking. I have never had a problem understanding her.

SiMoN! 28-09-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!
did you even watch BB7 - she went back in and was 1 big act


she wasnt her self at all

cujo-man 28-09-2007 10:15 PM

No!

farhad 28-09-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
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Originally posted by farhad
Your being out-voted:spin2:
It's my opinion and the poll won't change it. :thumbs:

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Originally posted by farhad
Chanelle and Charley they both used the Nikki mannerism, the "Who is She", the hand movements
Of course they did they saw on her on Big Brother and so did their friends and incorporated her movements and sayings into thier lives making them their own. It's called mimicking and it common fort groups of people mimic each other. It's a tribal/pack instinct.

For example when I shared an office with someone from Liverpool years ago I took on their accent even though I don't come from anywhere near Liverpool. I just mimic the sounds they made unconsciously. Charley, Chanelle and their friends did the same sort thing through watching TV.

I bet if you went out on the streets you would find people now with mannerisms like Nikki and other housemates too. It's a cultural thing.

And I bet if you look around you would find that someone said her saying to Nikki before she said them herself. She didn't invent them she learnt them and then modified them. She doesn't have ownership or copyright on them even if she thinks she does.

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Originally posted by farhad
I've never seen Jade Goodey using those hand movements
You wouldn't have done, Jade came before Nikki and didn't exhilarate her movements as much a Nikki. She wasn't as desperate for attention. People wave there arms around to be seen and noticed.

In style both were the same sort of housemate, Nikki was loud, poorly educated and shouted a lot. Jade was the same. If it is fair for Nikki to say Charley and Chanelle copied her then Jade could say the same thing about Nikki.

Quote:

Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!
Nikki needs attention as much as Jade does if not more. It feeds her obsessive need for attention, hence all tantrums in the house. It's part of the reason Nikki plays the fool all the time. It's "look at me" syndrome.


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Originally posted by farhad
Another thing is, a lot found it difficult to understand what Jade Goodey actually is saying, her speaking wasn't clear, and looks like she needs speech therapy, that never was the case with Nikki, you could always understand her.
And Nikki doesn't need therapy for all her problems? Jade has dyslexia which would account for the incorrect pronunciation of some of word. She does hear the sounds the same way as normal people and so she make mistakes when speaking. I have never had a problem understanding her.
Nikki was in hospital for over 10 years, so thats the reason she didn't have that chance to be educated or to mature like others, but as we've seen before she has learnt fast and sometimes came across as academically smart and was quite bright and aware of surroundings, Jade niether was that.

farhad 28-09-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by SiMoN!
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Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!
did you even watch BB7 - she went back in and was 1 big act


she wasnt her self at all
Of course she was herself but was acting than being natural self like first time round.

SiMoN! 28-09-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
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Originally posted by SiMoN!
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Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!
did you even watch BB7 - she went back in and was 1 big act


she wasnt her self at all
Of course she was herself but was acting than being natural self like first time round.
acting is not being yoursefl

she was just one big act

farhad 28-09-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by SiMoN!
Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
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Originally posted by SiMoN!
Quote:

Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!Jade needs attention!Nikki was and is herself and knowone else!the same with Jade!Nikki is not stupid and has never acted stupid shes actualy quite smart so NO!!
did you even watch BB7 - she went back in and was 1 big act


she wasnt her self at all
Of course she was herself but was acting than being natural self like first time round.
acting is not being yoursefl

she was just one big act
There was a lie detector test when she got evicted, and all proved it wasn't false, so there you go

I agree the second time round she did act, but then again she didn't copy anyone else. She just wasn't the natural funny Nikki when she came back.

farhad 28-09-2007 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
Your being out-voted:spin2:
It's my opinion and the poll won't change it. :thumbs:

Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
Chanelle and Charley they both used the Nikki mannerism, the "Who is She", the hand movements
Of course they did they saw on her on Big Brother and so did their friends and incorporated her movements and sayings into thier lives making them their own. It's called mimicking and it common fort groups of people mimic each other. It's a tribal/pack instinct.

For example when I shared an office with someone from Liverpool years ago I took on their accent even though I don't come from anywhere near Liverpool. I just mimic the sounds they made unconsciously. Charley, Chanelle and their friends did the same sort thing through watching TV.

I bet if you went out on the streets you would find people now with mannerisms like Nikki and other housemates too. It's a cultural thing.

And I bet if you look around you would find that someone said her saying to Nikki before she said them herself. She didn't invent them she learnt them and then modified them. She doesn't have ownership or copyright on them even if she thinks she does.

Quote:

Originally posted by farhad
I've never seen Jade Goodey using those hand movements
You wouldn't have done, Jade came before Nikki and didn't exhilarate her movements as much a Nikki. She wasn't as desperate for attention. People wave there arms around to be seen and noticed.

In style both were the same sort of housemate, Nikki was loud, poorly educated and shouted a lot. Jade was the same. If it is fair for Nikki to say Charley and Chanelle copied her then Jade could say the same thing about Nikki.

Quote:

Originally posted by CathalOS
Nikki like most people likes to get attention!
Nikki needs attention as much as Jade does if not more. It feeds her obsessive need for attention, hence all tantrums in the house. It's part of the reason Nikki plays the fool all the time. It's "look at me" syndrome.


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Originally posted by farhad
Another thing is, a lot found it difficult to understand what Jade Goodey actually is saying, her speaking wasn't clear, and looks like she needs speech therapy, that never was the case with Nikki, you could always understand her.
And Nikki doesn't need therapy for all her problems? Jade has dyslexia which would account for the incorrect pronunciation of some of word. She does hear the sounds the same way as normal people and so she make mistakes when speaking. I have never had a problem understanding her.
The lie detector test on Nikki proved that it is Nikki herself, so your point has been now invalidated.

Red Moon 28-09-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
Nikki was in hospital for over 10 years, so thats the reason she didn't have that chance to be educated or to mature like others, but as we've seen before she has learnt fast and sometimes came across as academically smart and was quite bright and aware of surroundings, Jade niether was that.
She has a NVQ in beauty therapy which is hardly a very academic, vocational yes, academic no. She was actually in and out of hospital for ten years she wasn't there all the time so she did get some schooling although at times it was interrupted for long periods. As has been proven from the out takes of her interviews this year she doesn't learn as fast as people think she does but she can learn things and remember them once she has been told them enough times.

I hate defending Jade because she such a horrible person, but Jade has made more money than any other Big Brother housemate so there must be something she is doing right even if it is only having a good manager.

Nikki would have noticed how much money Jade has made from being and playing the fool and she does the same sort of thing.

The problem for Nikki is she wants to be taken seriously sometimes and because of the way she was in the house that can never happen.

KKBL 28-09-2007 10:38 PM

i totaly agree with farhead whwn Nikki went back in the house she was accused of "acting" and but who was she acting like ????answer:HERSELF!!

Red Moon 28-09-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by farhad
The lie detector test on Nikki proved that it is Nikki herself, so your point has been now invalidated.
Which one?

farhad 28-09-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
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Originally posted by farhad
The lie detector test on Nikki proved that it is Nikki herself, so your point has been now invalidated.
Which one?
The one she did in BBLB last after getting evicted, she appeared on BBLB it 4 times after she got evicted, sadly that youtube clip has been removed, but it proved that she was herself.


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