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Sod_James 19-11-2007 07:03 PM

Are you being racist?
 
I often get told im racist because i believe that foreign people should either follow our rules or leave the country and return to their home country.

Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture.

It sadend me last week on rememberance day to fink of all those people who gave their lives for the hope that their country could win the war and stay British, and now i look and fink, would all those men be happy the way this coutnry has turned out and how many foreign people now live in this coutnry.

xDramatick 19-11-2007 07:07 PM

Nope.
You're not racist, I completely agree.

Captain.Remy 19-11-2007 07:09 PM

Well I live with 4 different cultures at the same time then I think I know how people are different and their predicament in the different situations. So no I'm not.

Spike 19-11-2007 07:11 PM

Your not racist. I believe all foreign people should be thrown out the country unless they are following British Culture, proud to British and contributing to our country.

Conor 19-11-2007 07:15 PM

Theres to many forginers in the UK, its something like 15% atm dont have British/Irish routes living in the UK. OK, if they'll do good jobs then its OK, but not if theres 5000 crammed into a chicken factory, whats the point! By the way, is racism not only when a black person or white person annoys the other?

Captain.Remy 19-11-2007 07:21 PM

Don't worry guys, when I will be living in England, I will get a job, a house and a wife...and I will speak english of course ! :hugesmile:

Conor 19-11-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by sunshine30
Don't worry guys, when I will be living in England, I will get a job, a house and a wife...and I will speak english of course ! :hugesmile:
Finally a non main English speaking person in the UK. You'll be part of a rare group here! Most forginers know: Yes, No, Please, Thank you and Me no understandy. Thats it and thats when they've been living here for about 3 years!

Captain.Remy 19-11-2007 07:50 PM

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Message original : Conor
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Originally posted by sunshine30
Don't worry guys, when I will be living in England, I will get a job, a house and a wife...and I will speak english of course ! :hugesmile:
Finally a non main English speaking person in the UK. You'll be part of a rare group here! Most forginers know: Yes, No, Please, Thank you and Me no understandy. Thats it and thats when they've been living here for about 3 years!
Haha Thanks. Well many people come to England because they think they will speak a better english so I guess at the beginning it's hard.
But I speak english for 11 years so I guess I will speak better than "Yes, No, can you repeat, me no understand" lol :hugesmile:

Retroman 19-11-2007 08:15 PM

I don't think it's classed as racism...
You're not disliking that group of people for their race/skin colour, and you're accepting of those who do follow the rules and take pride in British culture.

You're just one of the many people in the world who can think for themselves, and doesn't feel the need to be politically correct just because it's the "right" thing to do.

It's all well and good believing we can co-exist, but more often than not, an introduction of more varied people [whether it be race, religion, country of origin etc.] causes a country to decline and suffer more problems.

Japan is a country of pride, of which im sure it has its problems, but Japan is considered a dignified and beautiful place to be, whether it be in the cities or the countryside. This is mainly due to their ability to maintain their strong sense of culture, rather than trying to accept everyone elses...which makes a country lose its identity.

001steven 19-11-2007 09:33 PM

Is this Racist?
 
We were having a disscussion in my media class today and we were talking about the song ' black boys black boys one day we gonna be black men' cant remmeber tyhe artist BUT apparent ly MTV have banned the video after ofcom said it is dicriminiating white people...i lsitened to the song and I white myself found it racist im NO RASICT BUt this song is really discrimminating against white people... and some boy in my class black ' said he is complaing to OFCOM because they are being racist for banning a song aimed at black boys teens i found this disgusting if it was the othe way round ' white boys white boys ect' there would be UPROAR thisim glad Ofcom and MTV banned the song as it is racist imo

Sunny_01 20-11-2007 09:57 AM

No you are not being racist James, you are simply expressing your opinion about a very sensitive situation. All to often we stop ourselves from saying what we feel in the name of political correctness which is wrong.

I truly welcome and embrace those from other cultures, backgrounds etc.. but I also expect them to embrace my culture as after all they have "chosen" to come and live here or their families chose to come and live here. A little understanding for us would go a long way these days.

We have always embraced christmas yet now we have little men in suits sitting in offices deciding they do not want to offend people from other cultures! yeah right, what about our rights to enjoy particular times of the year, festivals etc..

Dr43%er 20-11-2007 11:16 AM

No, I don't think it is racist, but some of the comments are ill informed or reactionary.

"Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture."

Can you define a "very British culture" for me. Is it drinking tea from a china cup with the vicar or going out on a Friday night to get leathered?

"It sadend me last week on rememberance day to fink of all those people who gave their lives for the hope that their country could win the war and stay British, and now i look and fink, would all those men be happy the way this coutnry has turned out and how many foreign people now live in this coutnry."

Tell me, on remembrance day, did you remember any of the 100's of 1000's of foreign people that died fighting for us brits?

"I believe all foreign people should be thrown out the country unless they are following British Culture, proud to British and contributing to our country."

Once again, what is British culture? How can they be proud to "be" British when they are not? If you moved to lets say Japan. Would you be proud to be British still, or would you class yourself Japanese and be proud of that?

"OK, if they'll do good jobs then its OK, but not if theres 5000 crammed into a chicken factory, whats the point!"

The point is someone needs to work in the chicken factory or we get no chicken. The simple fact is a lot of British people do not want jobs like that as they see it as below them. You yourself don't class it as "good" job. I would rather have 5000 foreign workers in the country that contribute with taxes than the 100's of 1000's of British lay about scrounges that I and the foreign workers pay to keep sat at home watching Trisha whilst moaning about all the foreigners taking our jobs. Get off your backside and get a job in the chicken factory, then they won't have to employ foreigners.

"Most forginers know: Yes, No, Please, Thank you and Me no understandy. Thats it and thats when they've been living here for about 3 years!"

Absolute bollocks. Now I am never one to pull people up on this as my spelling and punctuation are not the best. But if you are going to use that as an argument you really should make sure your spelling and punctuation is beyond reproach. By the way, I do class the above statement as racist.

Matt 20-11-2007 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Sod_James
I often get told Im racist because i believe that foreign people should either follow our rules or leave the country and return to their home country.

Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture.
Absolutely not.

I am all for having foreign people living in this country. What really irritates me is when foreign people come in and try and influence the way we live.

It's very annoying :mad:

Captain.Remy 20-11-2007 12:25 PM

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Message original : Matt
Quote:

Originally posted by Sod_James
I often get told Im racist because i believe that foreign people should either follow our rules or leave the country and return to their home country.

Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture.
Absolutely not.

I am all for having foreign people living in this country. What really irritates me is when foreign people come in and try and influence the way we live.

It's very annoying :mad:
Yep I agree with what you said, that's not racism it's just like people have to follow the rules and not try to be like they want.

spacebandit 20-11-2007 04:38 PM

I went to a remembrance ceremony and there was not one asian face in the crowd [over 1000]. Also not a single one of my towns 15 asian councillors [all labour] attended the service - that to me spoke volumes.

Political correctness has been turned, by the labour party, into a club to use to shut up anybody who speaks on certain issues, and they have used it to create power bases in towns and cities - they have created a social apartheid to consolidate a power position. A dangerous game that will inevitably lead to dissent and strife between differing social populations.

In some towns and cities the labour party are the flipside of the BNP coin, no more and no less. the only difference is rhe labour parties holier than thou attitude in regards to the likes of the BNP and to the problems that labour are helping to create

Tom4784 20-11-2007 05:15 PM

I don't think it's racist either, As long as people who come to live here are productive and follow the law then they can do what they please really, I'd do the same if I moved to another country.

About the culture thing, i like some aspects of different cultures melding together, it makes England a very varied and tolerant country to different religions and life choices.

bananarama 22-11-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Sod_James
I often get told Im racist because i believe that foreign people should either follow our rules or leave the country and return to their home country.

Am i racist to believe that this country should sustain a very British culture.

It sadend me last week on rememberance day to fink of all those people who gave their lives for the hope that their country could win the war and stay British, and now i look and fink, would all those men be happy the way this coutnry has turned out and how many foreign people now live in this coutnry.

No you are not racist but some would like to think so. It is not racist to want to maintain ones own culture. That is everyones right in a country you have been born and bred in.

Whilst we can respect imported cultures it does not give them the right to change the British way of life. If an imigrant is so putt off by the British culture one has to ask. Why did they come here.....

I would not go to to live in a country the culture of which I was not happy with so why do others.......!!!!!

Sadly there are those that have a more profound mission in life to spread and impose beliefs and cultural ways on others.

Is it not racist for people of another culture to dislike our culture....!!!!!! .Racism is always a two way street we must not allow ourselves to be pushed into a one way street...

bananarama 22-11-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Dezzy
I don't think it's racist either, As long as people who come to live here are productive and follow the law then they can do what they please really, I'd do the same if I moved to another country.

About the culture thing, i like some aspects of different cultures melding together, it makes England a very varied and tolerant country to different religions and life choices.

Thats true if the cultures are not poles apart. When they are it's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Something has to give and damage is done to both the square and the hole....

Tom 13-12-2007 09:54 PM

Your not being racist but its easy to see that people might think you are being. I think completely the same way, but political correctness has gone mad.

Some schools have banned the "ba ba black sheep" rhyme because its racist. Teachers are no longer allowed to say "white board" or "black board" because that is also deemed racist. I see no logic in them points at all.

For me, racism is only when you don't like someone because of where they are from, or when you use the actual terms.

But people are going at double standards. It is ok for black people not to like white people, but its not ok the other way around.

Xander 13-12-2007 09:59 PM

Your not being racist i agree, i think should abide by our rules if they come into our country.
I don't like it how they influence us on how to live when they come into our country (exactly what Matt said)
I also have a problem with immigration, but thats another story...

natjake2504 14-12-2007 12:34 PM

Your not being racist what you said is the exact way i feel!!!!!!!!!!

GiRTh 14-12-2007 02:17 PM

Why has someone dragged up this tired old thread. It'll only end in an argument.

Captain.Remy 14-12-2007 04:02 PM

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Message original : GiRTh
Why has someone dragged up this tired old thread. It'll only end in an argument.
I don't think it will end in an argument as so far we read good and constructive answers.

GiRTh 14-12-2007 04:05 PM

OK then I'll post.

The OP talks of a 'British Culture' . What is that exactly? Chicken Tikka Masalla is the most eaten dish in this, six of the top ten richest people in this country are foreign and there is a mosque or synagogue in most districts. What is this British culture that is being talked about?

:)tom:) 14-12-2007 04:10 PM

no ur not racist atall i 100% agree. some people are fine, but the ones that wont learn the langage or try to change the rules and use the fact that they are a minority to get there way pissis me of sooooooo much:mad:


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