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Legend 30-01-2008 05:11 PM

Prostitution
 
Should it become legal? Do you look down on prostitutes? Are the men/"clients" just as bad? Or are they worse?

Dr43%er 30-01-2008 05:13 PM

"Do you look down on prostitutes?"

Depends what they are doing to me.

:spin: Thank you, I will be here all week.

Spike 30-01-2008 05:14 PM

I think it should be legal, don't see why it is illegal. If men want to pay for sex from women willing to give it them while trying to make abit of cash well I can't see no problem it isn't hurting anyone else.

GiRTh 30-01-2008 05:16 PM

We had this debate about this time last year. I'll find the thread.

The best answer is probably not. If prostitution was legal it would cause just as many problems as it would cure. The girls would have to be tested regularly, their working conditions would have to be aproved etc. All of this would increase price and probably create 'underground' brothels where rules were not as strict.

Also, if we legalised prostituion then how would we regulate which sex acts were legal and which ere illegal? How far would the punters be allowed to go with the girls? Legalising prostitution is a good idea in theory but the reality is that it's a logisitical mightmare.

Shaun 30-01-2008 05:17 PM

Karma to Dr43%er for that joke :tongue:

I personally don't know, since there's lots of things to take into account, such as young girls being exploited by (is there a better word for "pimps"?)

supernoodles! 30-01-2008 05:20 PM

No I dont think it should be legal,its sick.I know theres millions of girls all over the world who are seriously desperate for cash and see no other way out other than turning to prostitution but surely making it legal would only make matters worse and increase the number of prostitues.

Matt10k 30-01-2008 05:23 PM

Prostitution is legal in parts (all?) of the Netherlands and is considered to be safer not only for the women but also for their 'clients' as prostitutes must register and be tested for Sti's on a regular basis...

Tom 30-01-2008 05:23 PM

No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.

Dr43%er 30-01-2008 05:23 PM

Just to take a counter point. Should the girls who do decide to go in to it not be offered protection. They are going to do it anyway. So why not keep them safer?

supernoodles! 30-01-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_
No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.
I look down on the men more than the women,some women are forced into it,have no other way out ect [you dont find many that just want to do it for the love of it!]But with the men there just filthy old perverts who cant get it any other way.I think the men need help!

Legend 30-01-2008 05:27 PM

Had this discussion a while back with some people and I remember some of the comments that where said;

"they are dirty"

"they make me sick"

blah blah blah.

I really think it should become legal. It still happens everywhere, it's always going to happen and by making it legal then they are not at as much risk.

I honestly believe that it's just another job and they should be free to do it and not get locked up for it ... obviously it shouldn't be shuvved in our faces but it's just another way of making some money; keeping a roof over your head, feeding yourself etc.

At the end of the day, they are doing nobody else any harm, they are having sex and getting paid for it ... is that really such a huge deal? Fair enough it's not an ideal "job" but you have to make money somehow and I'd rather they made it this way than turning to theft etc which could leave other people out of pocket.

Providing it's not shuvved in our faces then I think they should be left be. People should get off their high horse when it comes to prostitutes and stop thinking they are the scum of the earth.

I really feel sorry for them because I doubt prostitution was #1 on their "what I want to be when I grow up" list.

Tom 30-01-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_
No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.
I look down on the men more than the women,some women are forced into it,have no other way out ect [you dont find many that just want to do it for the love of it!]But with the men there just filthy old perverts who cant get it any other way.I think the men need help!
I agree, the men seem to get away with their reputation intact but women only have to sleep with someone else whilst in a relationship and be called a slut, let alone being a prostitute.

I don't think there is no way out for them though.

GiRTh 30-01-2008 05:32 PM

There we go.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=55513

Legend 30-01-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_
No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.
"dirty old men"

That's a complete stereotype and no doubt you'd be surprised.

And getting a "proper job" is not as easy as people make it out to be.

Prostitues sell their bodies. Do models not to that? Don't page 3 girls get their t!ts out for other people's pleasure? Is that not the same thing?

Do you feel the same about porn? They do exactly the same ... they have sex for money. Is that also "extremeley derogatory"? Yet no doubt you and your right hand have sat there and enjoyed it ... no?

Or is porn completely different because it's legal so therefore no longer "derogatory"?

And yeah ... I looked for the other thread but had no luck.

Legend 30-01-2008 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
There we go.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=55513
Nearly EXACTLY a year to the day .. strange.

Matt10k 30-01-2008 05:39 PM

I agree with Legend. People seem to be missing the bigger picture. As long as prostitution is illegal, it is impossible to control and women are open to abuse.

Lets face it, whether it's legal or not, it's still going to happen so I think it should be legalised. The Dutch are very forward thinking really...

Dr43%er 30-01-2008 05:39 PM

"I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money."

If someone offered you £1'000'000 to sleep with them, they are not hideous but may not be your first choice. Would you?

Dr43%er 30-01-2008 05:40 PM

Top point legend.

supernoodles! 30-01-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_
No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.
"dirty old men"

That's a complete stereotype and no doubt you'd be surprised.

And getting a "proper job" is not as easy as people make it out to be.

Prostitues sell their bodies. Do models not to that? Don't page 3 girls get their t!ts out for other people's pleasure? Is that not the same thing?

Do you feel the same about porn? They do exactly the same ... they have sex for money. Is that also "extremeley derogatory"? Yet no doubt you and your right hand have sat there and enjoyed it ... no?

Or is porn completely different because it's legal so therefore no longer "derogatory"?

And yeah ... I looked for the other thread but had no luck.

no how is it the same thing ,gettign your tits out for a photo or letting some married bloke with 3 kids who you dont know from adam put his greasy paws all over your body and do god knows what to you {not saying all men who go to prostitues are like this just an example]

GiRTh 30-01-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt10k
I agree with Legend. People seem to be missing the bigger picture. As long as prostitution is illegal, it is impossible to control and women are open to abuse.

Lets face it, whether it's legal or not, it's still going to happen so I think it should be legalised. The Dutch are very forward thinking really...
Prostitution will always be illegal in some way shape or form. Did you read my post above? If prostitution is legal how do we decide what the punters can do to the girls? Also, what to stop a dirty old man type entreprneur opening brothels that appeal to people who demand more hardcore sex. How do we control that and stop him hiding behind the law inorder to discriminate and oppress women? Isn't it strange how this debate runs into another debate.

Legend 30-01-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_
No. They should just get a proper job and if dirty old men want sex that badly then they will go out and get it properly and for free. For the record, yes I do look down on them purely because its extremely derogatory to have to have sex for money.
I look down on the men more than the women,some women are forced into it,have no other way out ect [you dont find many that just want to do it for the love of it!]But with the men there just filthy old perverts who cant get it any other way.I think the men need help!
"need help" OTT much? If they are willing to pay for sex then what's the harm? It doesn't mean they need professional help ... it means they are human and they enjoy sex ... does it honestly matter if they are paying for it or not?

"filthly old perverts"

Again, another stereotype ... and since when was having sex perverted? Nor is it filthy. It's sex, we all do it ... so what if people have to/want to pay for it, that's their choice and it's not harming anybody else and I really don't think it's a sign of them needing to seek professional help.

Tom 30-01-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Legend
"dirty old men"

That's a complete stereotype and no doubt you'd be surprised.

And getting a "proper job" is not as easy as people make it out to be.
Yes, it is a stereotype but that is just the way I think. I can't help that.

Quote:

Prostitues sell their bodies. Do models not to that? Don't page 3 girls get their t!ts out for other people's pleasure? Is that not the same thing?
No, thats a completely different job. They aren't having god knows what shoved up them for a start.

Quote:

Do you feel the same about porn? They do exactly the same ... they have sex for money. Is that also "extremeley derogatory"? Yet no doubt you and your right hand have sat there and enjoyed it ... no?

Or is porn completely different because it's legal so therefore no longer "derogatory"?
1) Porn is fake
2) Porn is crap- its funny and unrealistic. It does NOTHING for me.
3) I'm left handed :joker:

Dr43%er 30-01-2008 05:46 PM

Jamie Theakston, Hugh Grant, Dirty old men?

GiRTh 30-01-2008 05:47 PM

Add Angus Deayton to that list.

Tom 30-01-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Jamie Theakston, Hugh Grant, Dirty old men?
The chances are they used a vice girl, not a prostitute. There is a slight difference between the two.


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