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Tom4784 20-02-2008 04:18 PM

Reverend slams \'talentless\' Leona
 
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Reverend slams 'talentless' Leona
Wednesday, February 20 2008, 16:20 GMT

By Alex Fletcher, Entertainment Reporter


Reverend and the Makers singer Jon McClure has claimed that Leona Lewis is "devoid of talent".

McClure criticised the Brit Awards for giving the X Factor winner four nominations, arguing that she was a part of an "endless stream of really bad records".

He told Metro: "I don’t like Leona Lewis. She’s nominated for four Brit Awards. Seriously, how can that happen? She’s so devoid of talent.

"She’s part of this endless stream who release really bad records. She can’t play anything, or write her own songs. What are you doing love? Stop."

The frontman also attacked the nu-rave scene, claiming that it had no relevance to genuine dance music fans.

"I’m not into all that new rave s**t. It’s a con. I love rave music but new rave isn’t rave music. It’s like New Order B-sides from 1985," he added.

"It’s rave music for people who hate raves, like Jurassic 5 is hip-hop for people who don’t like hip-hop."
I can't stand artists who are abviously so bitter, attention seeking and pathetic that they need to bitch about other artists to the media. How many Brit award nominations you got mate?

I used to actually like them, but i've gone off them now. I can't stand egotistical a**es like him.

MarkWaldorf 20-02-2008 04:45 PM

Who? Why shouldn't she receive 4 nominations? Her single was the biggest selling single last year, her album sold 2 million copies in 6 weeks, she's number one in fifteen countries and Bleeding Love won loads of awards. That amount of success should be snubbed?

She wasn't nominated for "Best Music Writer" or "Best Instrument Player" so why the hell is fussed about that? If she was then he could moan because we clearly haven't seen her do a lot of them.

Shaun 20-02-2008 04:55 PM

Those utter James Blunts [rhyming slang for a naughty word].

She has more talent in her belly button than they do altogether. Just because they're a bit different and insist on singing in the utter twattish style that mockney singers tend to do now (Kate Nash, Lily Allen...) does not mean that Leona's any less talented.

Urgh, that's made me really angry. Wankers.

XxShortyxX 20-02-2008 04:58 PM

Leona Lewis with wth put doubt the best singer around at teh moment, sounds like someone is jealous.

Wasted 20-02-2008 05:02 PM

Leona is big at the moment, so some artists will bash her just to make headlines. It's probably desperation for exposure or bitterness/jealousy that made them say this. Or both.

They may not like her, but to say she's talentless and state it as fact is ridiculous whether they like her or not, just because she's not to their tastes. For someone so talentless, she's done very well for herself without having to run off to the press and bash other artists for a bit of attention, like they have. In fact, she praises other artists and has never had a bad word to say about anyone else, even Jamelia, who has bashed her on more than one occassion.

The "really bad record" in question they referred to has had massive worldwide success, so their must be something good about it.

They said she can't write her own songs, which only shows they don't know what they're talking about. She had written lots of material before even enterting the X Factor, wrote lots of material for her current album as well, collaborating with different producers, and she has writing credits on the album.

I'm pretty sure she's said she can play the piano and is learning to play the guitar (or vice versa). So again, they don't know what/who they're talking about when they say "she can't play anything". Even if she couldn't play instruments, she still has a fantastic voice and that's the reason why she's built up the support she has.

"The frontman also attacked the nu-rave scene, claiming that it had no relevance to genuine dance music fans" And what does he mean by that? Music is subjective, people's tastes vary, who is he to decide what is genuine dance music and what isn't, or who is a genuine fan or who isn't? Silly music snob.

Sorry to type so much, but I am a fan so I had to go on a bit of a rant. :bigsmile:

GiRTh 20-02-2008 05:13 PM

Leon a is extremely talented. I'd like to know how many octaves are in her vocal range.

So what if she doesn't write her own material. Many great singers down the years have had to employ writers.

MarkWaldorf 20-02-2008 05:22 PM

Oh yeah, she wrote a full album before auditioning for The X Factor. I'm also sure I saw pictures of her on a guitar whilst recording Spirit. Even if she doesn't play it, she's learning.

Hugo 20-02-2008 05:42 PM

Reverend of the what????? Who the ***** are they!

KKBL 20-02-2008 06:10 PM

:sleep:TBH i dont give a **** what this guy says and i dont think most people do either because the biggest newspaper he could get this on is the Metro so that means not even the daily star would print this crap.and actualy Leona is a songwriter shes written over a huindred songs on her own she even wrote and prodused her own album before X factor and shes co written a few songs from her amazing debut album Spirit.

Arneldo 20-02-2008 06:13 PM

I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

Dan_ 20-02-2008 06:52 PM

Music snobs like him really do piss me off to be honest.Just because she's not to his taste, doesn't mean that she's talentless.He's off the mark about her not being able to write songs too :rolleyes:

supernoodles! 20-02-2008 07:10 PM

talentless?what a stupid thing to say its so obviously a load of crap its actually funny.Boring,yes,talentless? you have to be kidding!

XxShortyxX 20-02-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

How is she predictable and overrated?

The girl has more talent in her little finger then anyone who has won the X Factoror has been on the X Factor, she is up for 4 awards tonight, her ablum has sold millions, and her single was the most fatest downloaded song over, downloaded millions of times with in like minutes, and her single is the fastest saleing single ever, even if she is a bit overrated it's all for good reasons. She is the best singer with have and around at the moment, there will never be another Leona Lewis on the X Factor.

MarkWaldorf 21-02-2008 10:28 AM

She's over-rated for the right reasons. She's been around for less than a year and she's already had triple the success many UK artists who have been around for years have had. She works hard, she produces brilliant music and she deserves it.

I don't want this to turn into another Leona argument, because we know what happened last night. But yeah, she's over-rated for the right reasons.

Arneldo 21-02-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by XxShortyxX
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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

How is she predictable and overrated?

The girl has more talent in her little finger then anyone who has won the X Factoror has been on the X Factor, she is up for 4 awards tonight, her ablum has sold millions, and her single was the most fatest downloaded song over, downloaded millions of times with in like minutes, and her single is the fastest saleing single ever, even if she is a bit overrated it's all for good reasons. She is the best singer with have and around at the moment, there will never be another Leona Lewis on the X Factor.
We have seen singers similar, and better, then Leona for years. I don't see what is so special about her really. It's all hype and I have yet to be surprised, shocked, entertained or amused by any of her songs/performances.

She is defiantly talented, but I find her boring, predictable and overrated.

Ruth 21-02-2008 11:41 AM

I really like Reverend and the Makers, and would listen to them over Leona Lewis any day. But that's just because I don't like Leona's music. There's no doubt that she has got a brilliant voice, but her songs are pretty bland really.

Stu 21-02-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.
Agreed. I also agree with what he has to say about the nu-rave scene. Please. Its non existent. A term coined by NME so that twats who go around wearing all the colours of the rainbow on their right arm can have something to call themselves.

CassetteFinger 21-02-2008 01:12 PM

Bitter. I like Leona Lewis. I voted for her when she was on X factor cause she has a amazing voice, thats a huge talent.

Ruth 21-02-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by XxShortyxX
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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

How is she predictable and overrated?

The girl has more talent in her little finger then anyone who has won the X Factoror has been on the X Factor, she is up for 4 awards tonight, her ablum has sold millions, and her single was the most fatest downloaded song over, downloaded millions of times with in like minutes, and her single is the fastest saleing single ever, even if she is a bit overrated it's all for good reasons. She is the best singer with have and around at the moment, there will never be another Leona Lewis on the X Factor.
Well of course she has more talent than most X Factor contestants, because most of them are mediocre at best. And yes, her single was downloaded millions of times in minutes, but that would have probably happened whoever had won.

She's a great singer (Amy Winehouse is better though) with a terrific voice, but her songs are a bit bland and boring.

MarkWaldorf 21-02-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by XxShortyxX
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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

How is she predictable and overrated?

The girl has more talent in her little finger then anyone who has won the X Factoror has been on the X Factor, she is up for 4 awards tonight, her ablum has sold millions, and her single was the most fatest downloaded song over, downloaded millions of times with in like minutes, and her single is the fastest saleing single ever, even if she is a bit overrated it's all for good reasons. She is the best singer with have and around at the moment, there will never be another Leona Lewis on the X Factor.
And yes, her single was downloaded millions of times in minutes, but that would have probably happened whoever had won.
When Leon one his downloads didn't even come close to Leona's. Leona definitely has a large fanbase (of course over-ran by Take That's parade of teenage girls) which is why she's broke so many records. Even 11 months later millions of people were still interested in her music.

Ruth 21-02-2008 01:37 PM

But Leon was rubbish, and shouldn't have won.

I'm not knocking Leona - she's got a terrific voice (but I've heard better), but her songs are boring, at least to me. We all have different opinions. I'm just saying you can't use X Factor as a real frame of reference, because there's far better talent out there than you see on an average series of X Factor.

Stu 21-02-2008 01:54 PM

She undoubtedly has an amazing voice , but when that voice is the centrepiece of what are mostly dumb , cliched , and incredibly uninspired pop songs. Yawn.

:)tom:) 21-02-2008 02:02 PM

douche bag!

(but he has good songs)

MarkWaldorf 21-02-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Morpheus
She undoubtedly has an amazing voice , but when that voice is the centrepiece of what are mostly dumb , cliched , and incredibly uninspired pop songs. Yawn.
...and that's your opinion.

Arneldo 21-02-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by MarkChap©
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Originally posted by Ruth
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Originally posted by XxShortyxX
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Originally posted by Arneldo
I wouldn't agree that she is talentless. But over-rated, boring, and predictable - yes.

How is she predictable and overrated?

The girl has more talent in her little finger then anyone who has won the X Factoror has been on the X Factor, she is up for 4 awards tonight, her ablum has sold millions, and her single was the most fatest downloaded song over, downloaded millions of times with in like minutes, and her single is the fastest saleing single ever, even if she is a bit overrated it's all for good reasons. She is the best singer with have and around at the moment, there will never be another Leona Lewis on the X Factor.
And yes, her single was downloaded millions of times in minutes, but that would have probably happened whoever had won.
When Leon one his downloads didn't even come close to Leona's. Leona definitely has a large fanbase (of course over-ran by Take That's parade of teenage girls) which is why she's broke so many records. Even 11 months later millions of people were still interested in her music.
Lets not forget Leona got a lot of downloads straight after the finale, and after Leon won his single wasn;t available for 2 days and even then it was in Albums and not singles because of iTunes mistake. If it wasn't for that, he would have go way more downloads.


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