Spit-gate changed everything about BB9 for you?
 

After the infamous 'spit-gate' my favourite housemates (of the current ones) have changed completely. I've lost respect for Jennifer and Rebecca, having agreed with spitting in someones face. And Dale is just a shallow boy who tries to be a man by swearing and acting like a women's right movement. I much prefer Rachel, Darnell and Rex now. And while I'm talking about it, I think it is utterly disgraceful to spit in somebody's face or support it. I am so furious at Dennis and any of the group who did nothing when he spat at Mohamed. I amn't the biggest fan of Mo, but damn - he just didn't deserve that. Of course not. And accusing someone of homophobia is just ridiculous. Dennis is an ignorant and horrible little man (who, might I add, looks like a leprachaun on steroids and crack).

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It definitely showed the housemates for who they really are, and therefore has changed my perspective. The sad thing is some people fell the need to continue backing certain housemates, even after seeing how horrible they are. I have no problem admitting how my views have changed. I used to like Jen, because I liked how he manipulated people, but didnt know she was a cold hearted biyatch. Thought Luke was funny, but found out how much of an arse he really is. Thought MArio was just a narcissistic idiot, but he is actually a decent person.
So therefore, from backing Rex, LUke, Jen and Sylvia, I now much prefer Darnell, Rachel, Mohamed and Mario, and that fight was definitely the reason.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Jennifer is a whiny idiot, and Sylvia is an attention-whoring pain in the arse. Dennis was ejected for all the right reasons, and the two pretty boys playing white knight for Jennifer's benefit are just sickening.

Bottom line: If Jennifer was really upset about the painting, and had one tenth of a brain, she would have had a private conversation with Rex about the issue and resolved it without the interference of the other housemates. Obviously she'd rather be coddled and rallied around. She's the kind of person I hate.

Rex messed up a bit, but the actions of everyone in the house that followed are far far worse.

Up with Darnell and Mo, maybe Rachel.

Down down down with Dale, Stupid Stu, Jennifer, and the rest of the enablers.

It should also be pointed out that this sort of thing is bound to happen if BB is going to give the housemates as much alcohol as they ask for. This whole thing was preceded by a drinking strectch. I don't think it's a coincidence.

I think there is a new atmosphere in the house, something a bit sad to watch. My favourites haven't changed since they haven't done something big during the argument.
I think the whole incident will change the rest of the series.

I agree with all your points completely, although I was supporters of Rex/Mo/Rach etc. anyway - moreso than Jen/Dale. Having said that, neither of them had done anything to make me dislike them, but now they really have (which I have explained thoroughly in other threads).

The only thing I'll add is that I am a pretty big fan of Mo now purely for not punching Dennis in the face, and primarily for being the bigger man and walking away. I think he's earned tonnes of respect from the public for doing so.

Oh and I forgot to mention how I thought Rebecca wa just a fun girl, but now I see she is a loose cannon chav, who actually was the main catalyst to the incident.

Funny, it says on your banner, rebecca is your favorite. Strange how you think she didnt do anything, since she is pretty much the reason why stu got all aggressive, and why Dennis spat on Mohamed's face!

You must be joking right ? She didn't get involved in a long time and is not responsible of Dennis spatting at Mohamed's face. And before that, she is not the one who smudged the painting and started arguing.
And it's not because you are involved in an argument, and being drunk by the way that you are not a fun person anymore. I mean people are allowed to make mistakes.

My views didn't change much as I did not like Jen, Dennis, Dale and Rebecca anyway!
I was a bit disappointed with Stuart for getting into Jen's game of attention seeking!
And my respect for Rex, Darnell and Mo has grown!
The only thing that changed was my view of Mario: before I thought he was boring and patronising, now I think he is cool indispensable to the house!
You can blame it on the alcohol, but I still blame it on Jen! And I agree with Rex when he says her problem is far more complicated than a simple smugde on a painting!

Maybe you didnt pay attention, but Bex decided to get in the face of Mohammed when he said "Its just a painting" which riled up Dale and co. Bex was the one who decided to get overexcited, squared up to Mohammed and tell Mohammed to "not get involved in something thats none of his business", which was ironically, exactly what she was doing.

Dennis is obviously a scum bag and deserved to be booted out, but Jen was making a complete fuss over nothing, Rex had apologised several times... There was a lot of Alpha maling going on too... Dale and Stuart trying to prove their man credentials to Jen.

But still, if you want to point the finger at the person who caused it to completely get out of hand... Point it at Bex.

Bex is not responsible of what happened before and next, I mean, you may don't like her but it's not a reason to accuse her of something she hasn't done.
I paid attention to everything and Bex reacted at Mo saying it was just a painting then she tried to tell him the contrary.
I do agree it was over the top because of the alcohol and you can be easily surprised to see what you could do when you are drunk so I don't blame her for that.

I do agree with Dennis being removed and Jen being such an attention seeker and her complete inappropriate reaction to something not big and also should have shut up when Rex did apologise: he couldn't do anything more than this.

Also the situation was completely 'out of hand' before Bex said anything, just re-watch the scene and you will see she didn't cause anything, as she said 'she was trying to help', maybe and I do agree it wasn't the best way to do it, but still.

watch this video from 6:30.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5Ar_IgwxM


Then come back and say what you think!

Yeah I do repeat the same thing: Rebecca reacted at what Mo said 'It was just a painting'. I think I couldn't said it better. :wink:

And bex havent stopped yet. SHe wentof last night again and was given a warning!
Completely gone off her now!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=829416

No, not really. She intervened because she wanted to stop Mo getting over to speak to Dale, when all he wanted to do was get his point across.

She got involved completely unnecessarily. On the other hand, Mo too wanted to put his point across - which is only fair since everyone else was doing it. He was the only one trying to calm down the argument instead of escalating it. Furthermore, he was the only one to acknowledge Rex's apologies, which was a noble thing to do considering it was the rest of the house against two.

I dislike everyone in that team except for Stuart. He is still one of my faves. Im glad that when everything was kicking off live last night, he just stayed out of it and actually told the group to shut up. I wont be suprised if he nominates a person from his group tomorrow.

So as most of them, especially Mo and Stuart.
And as you said, he wanted to make his point across by saying 'It's just a painting' hence Bex's reaction, I can't see how it is wrong. But as I said, it was maybe not the best way to do it.

About Rex's apologies, the ones who didn't care about them were Jen and Dale, the others didn't say anything.
Mohammed, so as Bex and Stu should have stayed in his place.

I think he isgonna separate himself from them.

Here one OP from DS last night!

wanda64
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Posts: 6,349 Darnell and Stewart last night.

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Both Darnell and Stewart came to very similar conclusions last night ,but separately and dealt with it differently.
Stewart told Jen that her groups biatching made him feel uncomfortable sometimes, and that when he spends time with the other housemates he can feel their disapproval.Jen had been crying after her argument with Rachel and Stuart comforted her yet explained that Racel had a point. This is not the first time he has taken the time to give another persons point of view to Jen, and it's not the first time she has listened to this sort of advice from him, but in one ear ,out the other lol! I doubt this will be shown on HL , just as anything else positive Stewart does is not shown, eg looking after Bex when she was throwing up, holding back her hair, wiping vomit off her, rubbing her back etc.

Darnell told Kat and Rachel that he thought they were nicer people than Jen and her group (the assholes were his words for Jen's group lol) but that he liked spending time with that group because he had more in common with them, but then he would feel bad because he would hear them biatching.Rachel sensibly tiold him that instead of getting involved in the biatching one way or the other he should simply walk away.

Both Stewart and Darnell like Jen's group as individuals , but dislike their biatching , neither have really got involved in the biatching themselves but have witnessed it...they have dealt with their thoughts on the subject differently , but both seem to have the same dilemma, the nice people are a bit dull to be around, but the nasty people are more interesting but assholes.

Stewart seems to be asking the assholes to be less biatchy, Darnell seems to be asking the nice guys to not think bad of him for wanting to be friends with the assholes...but both are definitely having the same problem....a problem which imo is caused by Jen,without her Dale,Luke and Bex would probably be a lot nicer to be around lol!

Wonder if any of this will make highlights ..probably not since Stewart rarely gets shown except in a bad light ..the Darnell bits may get aired though...I found it very interesting and both Darnell and Stewart went up in my estimation for at least trying to tackle the problem, albeit differently.

Step 1 of the bores taking over is in progress.

I still don't care, does that make me bad? I'm still supporting the same people for the sheer fact that they still entertain me.

I see what you're saying. You think all three of them should be treated equally, since they all stepped in when they shouldn't have. However, unlike Bex & Stuart (who even admitted this later), Mo knew all the facts because Rex had been explaining them in the bedroom. Stuart just blindly jumped to Jen's defence, whilst Bex blindly jumped in to try and stop Mo putting his point across to Dale.

However, I find her to have double standards because she didn't stop anyone else doing so - just Mo. The entire luxury bedroom seemed to have a vendetta against them, because Mo's point could have been perfectly valid if he had been allowed to express it. Instead, Rex was effectively yelled at for apologising, and Mo was spat on for doing what everyone else was doing, and that too in a calm manner. Plus, Bex & Stuart particularly were still being harsh towards Mo even after he had been spat on, potentially thinking it was all right for Dennis to do so!

I didn't find anything they're doing remotely entertaining, just embarrassing. We don't need people like that on our screens. The fight itself was interesting, but made for very awkward viewing. Entertainment to me is seeing the housemates having fun, and particularly BB stepping in with tasks, twists and secret missions. It's not so entertaining watching a load of housemates escalating situations for the sake of it, or for proving their dislike of 2 housemates who in my eyes are above all of them. The fact that you don't care worries me, because you're condoning aggression & violence etc. for no valid reasons.

Of course she wasn't going to stop anyone else since she didn't react before but only when Mo said it was just a painting to Dale. She over reacted I agree, due to alcohol I guess like most of the other housemates.
Also Mo's point wasn't valid anyway, of course it is a painting but it's for the principle: Rex shouldn't have done that but Jen made her act like an old drama queen.

Mo was spat on because he was still trying to tell everyone it was just a painting. But he didn't understand the problem wasn't there, hence Dennis's reaction, which I don't agree with, but still, I understand why Dennis did it: Mo should have shut up like all of the others.

So Bex is far from being responsible of anything, she was trying to help her friends but not in the best way.

After watching the argument on sky plus lastnite... I totally think Jen was taking things wayy to seriously! I looked at the picture and there was hardly anything on it. And Rex even apologised!! twice!
I think Rex, Mo, Darnell and Mario have all gone up in my view!

Jen has gone down.

I didn't say Mo's point was a valid one, but that he could have gone on to argue it well, yet wasn't given a chance at all. And I found that unfair. He had all the facts, so could have managed to break it up if the other housemates didn't dislike him and Rex so much.

I think there were some far deeper issues that needed to be resolved, and this painting incident just triggered it - in that respect, I think Mo was right. I think it's disgusting that everyone else was allowed to scream and shout yet he wasn't even allowed to speak - instead, he was spat on. I don't know how you can possibly advocate that... I'm really surprised that you are, actually. Especially considering the reasons why he spoke up anyway. Furthermore, after Dennis' ejection - Jen, Sylvia, Bex, Dale & Luke particularly seemed to think his removal wasn't justified, which in itself is ridiculous.

Lastly, with regards to your last point - I don't see it that way. Bex stepped in without knowing what went on, and just escalated the argument like the others. It was Mo who was trying to help out a friend, which I particularly find admirable since he was the only one to acknowledge Rex's apologies, and was basically up against everyone else besides Rex.

Yeah I also saw that thread too.

im no longer supporting Jennifer.i hate Dennis.its not just the spitting its the way he was acting when he was walking from the bedroom to the DR.it was just disgusting,also the way he was repeatedly calling Mo a creep made me very angry.i dislike Dale more but my opinion on Bex hasnt changed.