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Benjamin 07-09-2008 02:59 AM

Will a Black Girl Ever Win?
 
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER THIS IS NOT RACIST.

(just in case somebody feels I am being)


But I was just looking at all the Big Brothers and there has never been a Black girl in the Top 2 in the UK Big Brother.


In fact there has only ever been one Black Girl in a Final Week, Makosi (BB6)

and

There has only ever been 2 that have made the top 6:

Makosi (BB6) - 3rd
Melanie (BB1) - 4th evicted week 6


How come they never seem to be very liked or popular?
Alison (BB3) is an exception as she is popular, but she was evicted in week 3 of BB3 (I'm still bitter about that, she was a legend).

Will BB10 see a Black Girl which can buckle this trend and take on the crown or at least runner-up position?

I want BB to give us a h/mate which is NOT like Charley etc.

Somebody more like Alison, she was great.

Loukas 07-09-2008 03:00 AM

I can't see why not :shrug: :).

markofthebeast 07-09-2008 03:01 AM

i doubt it, britain is racist no matter what anybody says

Novo 07-09-2008 03:09 AM

i don't think britain is racist at all

brian won??

shilpa shetty won???

we have a few idiots

but on the whole

were no where near a racist country

Locke. 07-09-2008 03:11 AM

Well BB seem to want to stereotype Black women into people like Charley and Alex, even Sylvia had a bad personality, just not as bad as theirs.

bigbr0ther 07-09-2008 03:24 AM

Brian won.

But then again that was only because the producers set him up for it because of the race row on CBB.

Spike 07-09-2008 10:16 AM

I hate this topic because does it really matter?
If a black female is a brilliant housemate she will be liked and get far, if not she wont win.

Hugo 07-09-2008 10:49 AM

Why does race have anything to do with it ?

Jackie 07-09-2008 11:53 AM

If shes as nice as racheal than i don't see a problem with a black girl winning.

housem8 07-09-2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by markofthebeast
i doubt it, britain is racist no matter what anybody says
Britain ain't racist, that's a whole country your talking about and remember that white women marry black women, so...:rolleyes:

I don't see why we shouldn't have a black winner one day, but as long as they are nothing like Charley - I don't mind :bored:

GiRTh 08-09-2008 10:38 AM

I doubt if a black girl will won BB but I don't think race has anything to do with it. I think the producers pick HM's based on personality and many of the black women who have been HM's have had big personalities or put on a big personality for the selection process.

If there was a black woman who was a good non controversial HM, I think she'd do well.

Marc 08-09-2008 11:59 AM

Interesting stats:
The number of black women in BB UK history;

BB1; 1/11 - melanie - nice but she was scheming
BB2; 1/11 - amma - personally don't think she'd ever have won BB2, with Brian and Helen there too!
BB3; 3/14 - alison - hilarious but idiot public evicted her; adele - confrontational and never gonna win against Kate, Jade, Alex, Johnny; sunita walked
BB4; 0/13 -
BB5; 0/13 -
BB6; 2/16 - makosi - well... jacuzzi; vanessa - boring!
BB7; 1/21 - dawn - smelly, ejected
BB8; 3/23 - charley - loud, confrontational but was fun; Nicky - boring/moany; shabnam - idiot
BB9; 3/21 - maysoon - walked; alex - ejected; sylvia - it went wrong for her after a few weeks

So out of 9 series' and a possible 143 housemates, only 14 housemates were black females. So thats 9.7% of the total housemates to have ever gone in that BB UK house. So no wonder a black women has never won with such a small chance of winning.

W/O Shabnam: 9.09% ( Wasn't sure of her ethnicity)
I've given reasons as to why these women could never have won

But if we're talking about ethnicity then;

BB1 winner = english MALE - liverpool
BB2 winner = irish MALE
BB3 winner = english FEMALE - london
BB4 winner = scottish MALE
BB5 winner = portuguese FEMALE(?)
BB6 winner = english MALE - newcastle
BB7 winner = english MALE - brighton
BB8 winner = english MALE (black) - essex - born in nigeria
BB9 winner = welsh FEMALE

Barbie 08-09-2008 04:28 PM

it has nothing to do with race but looking at the black people that have gone in... Charley, Alex, Syliva they weren't nice people so no wonder they didn't get far
when we get someone with potential to get far i'm sure they will

need i go on

MarkWaldorf 08-09-2008 04:33 PM

Big Brother will always edit black women like Charley now. And as much as it shouldn't be done, a black woman will always be compared to Charley. Alexandra going in and having a temper, always in fights didn't help that BB stereotype either. Imo, it'll always be like that. Unless the woman is nice, which didn't benefit Maysoon - she just got called boring.

Marc 08-09-2008 04:35 PM

Yeah, I thought the same thing Mark, now they have benefited from charley in bb7, all black women will be made to look out like her... cos she was solid gold entertainment

GiRTh 08-09-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markus
Big Brother will always edit black women like Charley now. And as much as it shouldn't be done, a black woman will always be compared to Charley. Alexandra going in and having a temper, always in fights didn't help that BB stereotype either. Imo, it'll always be like that. Unless the woman is nice, which didn't benefit Maysoon - she just got called boring.
Great point Mark.:thumbs:

It's an interesting question, why was Maysoon considered to be boring yet Rachel ended up winning?

Llamajohn 08-09-2008 09:40 PM

makosi was favourite....until she got pregnant.

on the whole (lol), the selection of black females are not the best...steretypical and just bleh.

Marc 08-09-2008 09:45 PM

:sad: no one is acknowledging my amazing stats lol

dupin 08-09-2008 09:45 PM

Nicky was a great housemate - all the housemates & producers seemed to turn against her though, she could have done really well. Best housemate of BB8 anyway

rayheartbliss 08-09-2008 09:56 PM

i dont see with this questiong bringing the color....

charley/alex/makosi were unpopular because of how they have been, and how they treated people.......

put someone like leona in there, then youd have your black female winner....well kinda, she is in a %

but it does make it dodggy,
sylvia--------luke

sylvia was not that bad
luke was worst than charley (well probably just the same)

but yet he still had fans (good thing not the whole nation)


at the moment, on how the judgement seems to be, i cant picture a black female winning.
unless the rest of her HMs are just bunch of trash wannabie legends!

bringbackscience 09-09-2008 10:25 AM

If they are liked enough yes. But I struggle to see how it matters.

NettoSuperstar! 09-09-2008 10:28 AM

Makosi could have won it if she hadnt lost the plot

Marc 09-09-2008 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbE
Makosi could have won it if she hadnt lost the plot
definately lol she went coo-coo!

BigOz 18-09-2008 12:42 AM

We're in the ages of pink coats, non-stop spenind money on purses, clothes, shoes, clothes, jewelry, make-up, clothes.

And most of young female people are like : Heya Girl! Ya know what I am talking about?

(Sorry if this is in any way offencive, I stopped myself from saying dumb b*** but that would cross the line and would probably be WAY to offensive.)

*M*a*TT*H*ew* 22-09-2008 07:20 PM

Leona won TXF and Alisha won SCD, so that's a start!


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