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NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:29 PM

Paralympic cyclist Darren Kenny for sports personality of the year
 
He won 4 golds and a silver in the paralympics! What an achievement! more than any of the brits in the actual olympics. I think it would be good for a disabled person to win as they havent really featured in the competition before and why shouldnt he? he has won more gold medals than rebecca adlington and chris hoy who are current faves to win

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:31 PM

Because not many people are interested in the Paralympics. Paralympic golds are not as prestigeous as Olympics ones.

NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Markymark
Because not many people are interested in the Paralympics. Paralympic golds are not as prestigeous as Olympics ones.
well maybe they should be

Lauren 22-09-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Markymark
Because not many people are interested in the Paralympics. Paralympic golds are not as prestigeous as Olympics ones.
They are as prestigious. It just so happens the general public is ignorant to such situations.

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:37 PM

They shouldn't. There are a lot more able-bodied people than disabled so it's generally much harder to win an Olympic medal.

Novo 22-09-2008 04:38 PM

i think its harder to win a medal in the actual olympics then the paralympics
there is more competion

in the paralympics there are less people in the competions because there is only a limited amount of disabled people who put themselves forward

Shaun 22-09-2008 04:42 PM

Chris Hoy/Rebecca Adlington to win.

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by andy-dale-win
i think its harder to win a medal in the actual olympics then the paralympics
there is more competion

in the paralympics there are less people in the competions because there is only a limited amount of disabled people who put themselves forward
They're disabled though so they should get special treatment.:rolleyes:

NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:43 PM

how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier

Lauren 22-09-2008 04:44 PM

They compete against the same amount of athletes, as bbE said.

Plus, markymark - they don't want the supposed "special treatment". They're world class Olympians. You're not.

Shaun 22-09-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
The level of competition in the able Olympics is a lot higher, purely for the reason that there are less disabled athletes than non-disabled ones. That's just common sense.

Novo 22-09-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
there are more athletes in the actual olympics actually

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Lauren
They compete against the same amount of athletes, as bbE said.

Plus, markymark - they don't want the supposed "special treatment". They're world class Olympians. You're not.
You miss the point totally.

Lauren 22-09-2008 04:46 PM

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how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
Well that's just obvious.

But the winning of a medal is not made easier for this fact.

Shaun 22-09-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
Well that's just obvious.

But the winning of a medal is not made easier for this fact.
Well it is really if you have less athletes to defeat in order to contend for one.

NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
I wouldnt say it was easy for someone with physical disabilities to train to the standard they do

Shaun 22-09-2008 04:47 PM

There were several events of the Paralympics where there weren't even heats, just the final. If I remember correctly, the vision-impaired track events had like...4 competitors overall. Not a lot of competition, by any means.

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Markymark
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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
Well that's just obvious.

But the winning of a medal is not made easier for this fact.
Of course it is. For arguement's sake, able-bodied people have a one in a million chance of getting an Olympic medal, disabled people have a one in ten thousand chance. The world's best athletes compete in the Olympics.

NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
Well that's just obvious.

But the winning of a medal is not made easier for this fact.
Well it is really if you have less athletes to defeat in order to contend for one.
and then they have to beat everyone else there

Novo 22-09-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
I wouldnt say it was easy for someone with physical disabilities to train to the standard they do
i woudnt say it was easy for people with no disabilities to train to ther standard they do

Markymark 22-09-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Markymark
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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
I wouldnt say it was easy for someone with physical disabilities to train to the standard they do
But they're only competing against other people in the same situation. No-one said it was "easy".

Lauren 22-09-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Shaun

Well it is really if you have less athletes to defeat in order to contend for one.
In the actual contention of the medal, there is the same number of athletes for the medal.

Furthermore;
Able bodied people in the World Vs. Able bodied people competing in the Olympics is lower than the number of Disabled people Vs. Disabled people competing in the Olympics.

Anybody able-bodied can train to the standard of Olympians, whereas disabled athletes have to endure excruciating pain when training, and take the extra step to compete.

The standard is still high... for example. Oscar Pistorius is "good enough" to compete against able-bodied athletes. This would obvious take more effort than that of ablebodied people.

There's also Natalie Du Toit who can also compete in the Olympics.

NettoSuperstar! 22-09-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by bbE
how is it easier to win a medal? they have to compete against as many other athletes just the same. Just because there are less disabled people doesnt make it any easier
Because it's easier to get there in the first place.
I wouldnt say it was easy for someone with physical disabilities to train to the standard they do
But they're only competing against other people in the same situation. No-one said it was "easy".
so are olympic athletes

Locke. 22-09-2008 04:52 PM

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