ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums

ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/index.php)
-   Serious Debates & News (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=61)
-   -   Death Penalty? Right Or Wrong [LATEST DEBATE] (https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73175)

Jake! 16-10-2008 03:25 PM

Death Penalty? Right Or Wrong [LATEST DEBATE]
 
Are You
For OR Against
The Death Penalty & Why??

Ruth 16-10-2008 03:48 PM

Absolutely and totally against it.

Tom 16-10-2008 03:49 PM

Against- let the b*stards suffer! I don't believe in 'a life for a life', its the cowards way out. I think instead the governments should be much harsher and people should be stripped of basic human rights and treated like animals. When someone is given the death penalty they've ruined someone elses life and potentially their family. People who do that to people deserve to have their life made into hell and their life ruined too, but not ended. As I say its a cowards way out.

Ninastar 16-10-2008 03:50 PM

Well. If the person has done something terrible ( like terrorists ) then yeh i kinda think yes. Also if the torcher and kill more them 15 people or w.e i also think yes.

hannah. 16-10-2008 10:21 PM

I think there's too much of a chance of someone being wrongly sentenced for it to work

Kate.. 16-10-2008 10:24 PM

Against it 100%

It's a stupid system, people are wrongly acused at scary amounts these days because of racist or homophobic policemen.
Plus if you wanted to kill someone because they killed others then you're just as bad as them aren't you!

Annie 16-10-2008 10:27 PM

I am against it - I think people can change. Thats VERY naive of me and I am the first to admit that not everyone can but I do believe that a lot of people do REALLY bad things and in time they realise this and change as a person.

Also it could be a continuing circle - the people who killed them would have killed someone... so should they be killed?! oooooo

NettoSuperstar! 17-10-2008 08:50 AM

Totally against! this is a crazy world as it is without us killing people in the name of the law! And what Hannah and Annie said...and Kate

Red Moon 17-10-2008 09:07 AM

Completely against in all cases without exception it and nobody could change my mind on the matter.

It's just legaised murder by the state and the denial of the state of a fundermental human right, the right to life. It amounts to prenediated cold-blooded killing by state in the name of the people and, is in the case where the victium is a murder, is just as bad as the crime they have comitted.

It makes murders of use all.

Sunny_01 17-10-2008 09:27 AM

100% opposed to the death penalty. How can we justify another persons crime by saying it is ok to kill them :bored:

Ruth 17-10-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Red Moon
Completely against in all cases without exception it and nobody could change my mind on the matter.

It's just legaised murder by the state and the denial of the state of a fundermental human right, the right to life. It amounts to prenediated cold-blooded killing by state in the name of the people and, is in the case where the victium is a murder, is just as bad as the crime they have comitted.

It makes murders of use all.
Absolutely Red. Death Penalty is just a way of saying "we don't approve of you doing what you did, but we can justify doing it ourselves." There is no way on earth anyone could ever sway my opinion on this. I will never ever support the death penalty.

It's not even that I don't think some of these people probably deserve to die. If Ian Huntley (to use a well known example) ever succeeded in committing suicide, I would not shed tears, but under NO circumstances do I feel that anybody else has the right to decide whether he should live or die. And I don't believe all this rubbish about 'a life for a life'. At some stage, someone has to take the higher ground, and it should be the justice system which does that.

Firewire 17-10-2008 01:51 PM

Against.

Spike 17-10-2008 03:41 PM

I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed. I can't see why the government allow some people to live and I would love to have the job at carrying the death penalty out on the criminals

NettoSuperstar! 17-10-2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed. I can't see why the government allow some people to live and I would love to have the job at carrying the death penalty out on the criminals
And we have the right to decide that do we?

Spike 17-10-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed. I can't see why the government allow some people to live and I would love to have the job at carrying the death penalty out on the criminals
And we have the right to decide that do we?
yes..

Conor 17-10-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed. I can't see why the government allow some people to live and I would love to have the job at carrying the death penalty out on the criminals
But what if you were to kill an innocent person and found out. Imagine how bad you would feel. Especially if there was a family involved.

I'm against btw

bigbr0ther 17-10-2008 04:47 PM

If murder is wrong, then to murder is wrong, and the death penalty is murder, so it's wrong.

If murder is right, then there's no reason to be punishing murderers and thus no need for a death penalty.

Either way you look at it, the death penalty is wrong.

Also a lot of innocent people are wrongly convicted... how would you like to be one of them?

Callum 17-10-2008 04:48 PM

Wrong, but sometimes when people do horrible things at first I feel like they be given the death penalty but if you think about it you're just as bad as it's like killing someone.

Conor 17-10-2008 04:49 PM

Reading through this thread, I agree 100% with Tom. They should have a special area in jails and just bare concrete floors and walls. No designer chairs and internet and SKY + sub. The police and public should be allowed to abuse and hurt and destroy the murderers until they break down.

Red Moon 17-10-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed.
What for crimes?

Ones like these... murder, espionage, treason, political dissidence, rape, adultery, incest, sodomy, homosexuality, drug trafficking, human trafficking, corruption and apostasy piracy. All of which carry the death penalty some where in the world.

The people that advocate the use of the death penalty are no better than a premeditated murders. And if they don't like the fact that we don't have the death penalty in the EU because we up hold the human rights of the individual and see ourselves as better than murders by not debasing ourselves to their level of barbarity.

If people feel so strongly in favor of death penalty the they are are more than welcome to go to the China and get jobs as executioners. With the state there murdering over 5000 people I sure they have openings.

bigbr0ther 17-10-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conor
Reading through this thread, I agree 100% with Tom. They should have a special area in jails and just bare concrete floors and walls. No designer chairs and internet and SKY + sub. The police and public should be allowed to abuse and hurt and destroy the murderers until they break down.
You say that until you find yourself or a loved one accused of a crime he didn't commit. Do you have no empathy? Compassion? Do you really think the police should be allowed to beat and abuse (both verbally and physically) these people, and that members of the PUBLIC should be allowed IN to do the same!? Are you crazy?

I hope you will forgive that this is a bit of a touchy subject for me, as my Uncle whom I loved with all of my heart was murdered by the government as "punishment" for a crime that we KNOW he didn't commit.

KawaiiSakura1 17-10-2008 10:02 PM

I am against it.

Spike 17-10-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Conor
Reading through this thread, I agree 100% with Tom. They should have a special area in jails and just bare concrete floors and walls. No designer chairs and internet and SKY + sub. The police and public should be allowed to abuse and hurt and destroy the murderers until they break down.
I love that idea!

Sam1994 17-10-2008 10:06 PM

I am against the death penalty because these criminals will not suffer for their crimes like murder or rape. If they are killed, they don't suffer at all. I want these criminals to suffer for what they have done.

NettoSuperstar! 18-10-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
Quote:

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Quote:

Originally posted by Spike
I am 100% for the death penalty, some people shouldn't have the right to live and have no use so they may aswell be killed. I can't see why the government allow some people to live and I would love to have the job at carrying the death penalty out on the criminals
And we have the right to decide that do we?
yes..
well Im glad you dont run the country! And what happens when you kill someome innocent? theres plenty of examples of miscarraiges of justice, eg that stefan kiszko, who was convicted of killing a little girl. He would have been put to death in your world. years later they found it wasnt him and the real perpetrator has recently been convicted! youd have blood on your hands mate


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.