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Saywhat 11-07-2009 04:26 PM

Noirin is the VICTIM
 
Long post but a good common sense read!

It is time to stand up for Noirin, as she seems to be getting the blame for Sree, Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit!

The first person to make a move on Noirin was Sree, and she dealt with it very well, untill Marcus made it blatantly obvious that he fancied her and started to manipulate Noirin and made the pair fall out.

I am disgusted with Marcusas an over grown 35 year old man, he is manipulating her left right a center, when all she wants is to get on with everyone, but he then goes and confuses her mind and makes her wary of others. This is why one minute she is as nice as pie, and then the next won't say anything to anyone else.

The conversations are there to see, when she states to Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit that she does not have a problem with anyone in the house, they start chipping away at her mind and make her feel paranoid towards others.

This is what Siavass tried to do with his bunny rabbit LIE, he didn't like the way she did get along with everyone, so he TRIED to plant a seed of doubt in her mind and made up a porkie...and no doubt he beliveMarcus would leave on Friday and then from there develop his relationship with Noirin. Even late last night I caught Siavass still lying about it, and trying to claim Kris was booted out because he didnt admit to the truth....and Noirin half fell for it and apologised for asking the RIGHT questions.

Back to Marcus as a 35 year old man, what a creep, he manipulates Norinin to sit on his lap like a pervy old man with a can of cidar. He manipulates Noirin to lay down next to him, in order for him to clarify the truth and I cannot see why the general public is so stupid that Noirin ends up getting the blame.

Halfwit on Noirin, damn I have nothing to say, he is reading ALL the wrong signals.

Here is hoping BB puts in a hunky shaven headed straight YOUNG FIT man Noirin fancies whilst he fancies Noirin too, which blows Manipulating Marcus and lying Siavass out of the waters.

There is nothing enigmatic about Noirin, it is simply a bunch of halfwits whowant to chase a bit of pretty skirt and boast how they got in first. Once she turned down Sree, it then became game on for the rest of their ego's.

In fact, Noirin was first friends with Lisa and followed her around like a sheep and I even worried at times if she fancied Lisa (the bald head would do it I guess), Marcus was the one who put a stop to that.

Marc 11-07-2009 04:31 PM

Kris said last night that she was on and off with him when he was in the house. She is clearly that type of person who picks and chooses who she hangs around with and pays attention.

Saywhat 11-07-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Marcjswp
Kris said last night that she was on and off with him when he was in the house. She is clearly that type of person who picks and chooses who she hangs around with and pays attention.

Whilst you are forgetting that Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit pick away at her brain and make her paranoid.

Tell me, why is a 35 year old man all over a yound lass like that. Noirin as a young lady should be having fun with Karly and dogface, not hogged up with Marcus and his tinpot theories!

Marcus is using all his years of experience on Noirin, and is wearing her down mentally, she no longer knows where to turn and is stuck with Marcus.

She is in a ONE bad relationship and I have got many friends in one. Marcus is ISOLATING her from everyone. If she is not all over him, he sulks and grunts...he is sooo pathetic!

'Conor 11-07-2009 04:46 PM

your 100% true

tramp-stamp 11-07-2009 04:47 PM

The last few days, Noirin has been virtually ignoring marcus, even saying that she doesnt want him to compliment her. Marcus has been sulking but he would have got over it

but then, he beat Kris in the eviction,

and Noirin wants to be his best friend again, he asks for hugs, and he gets them, he wants her attention and he gets it. Sure she continues to say that its nothing more than friendship, but thats a hundred times better than she was treating him a few days ago, and hes loving it

she had him at arms length when she thought he was gonna be evicted, if she had an ounce of integrity, then he would still be there

Saph 11-07-2009 04:47 PM

i read the first word and gave up ...but i disagree, i think Noirins really sneeky and bitchy

Saywhat 11-07-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tramp-stamp
The last few days, Noirin has been virtually ignoring marcus, even saying that she doesnt want him to compliment her. Marcus has been sulking but he would have got over it

but then, he beat Kris in the eviction,

and Noirin wants to be his best friend again, he asks for hugs, and he gets them, he wants her attention and he gets it. Sure she continues to say that its nothing more than friendship, but thats a hundred times better than she was treating him a few days ago, and hes loving it

she had him at arms length when she thought he was gonna be evicted, if she had an ounce of integrity, then he would still be there
Gord damn it, you lot are very blindsighted when it comes to Noirin arent you?

How did she hear the bunny rabbit comments, werent she with Siavass, Halfwit and MARCUS?

Who forced her by manipulating means on thursday to lie next to him outside?

Noirin has been talking with Marcus for days now, all she doesnt want is a sexual relationship with him, and he is trying to sneak one out of her...big time!

So to say Noirin hasntbeen talking to Marcus until he was saved last night, is just a blatant LIE! Why can't Marcus get into his thick head SHE DOESNT FANCY HIM?

setanta 11-07-2009 04:51 PM

noirin is a snake.... always thinking of herself. the way she wormed back into the marcus/freddie/siavash group last night was pathetic. and did you see her flirting with freddie? it's maddening to watch it. the reality is she wouldn't give those fellas the time of day in the real world.

Saywhat 11-07-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SaphLiike
i read the first word and gave up ...but i disagree, i think Noirins really sneeky and bitchy

Then you should have read the title of the post, should have you???

Saywhat 11-07-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
noirin is a snake.... always thinking of herself. the way she wormed back into the marcus/freddie/siavash group last night was pathetic. and did you see her flirting with freddie? it's maddening to watch it. the reality is she wouldn't give those fellas the time of day in the real world.
She has been talking to them for days (apart from Siavass), STOP TALKING RUBBISH, STOP IT! Didnt you see on last night footage Marcus Manipulated her to lie down next to him?

" I won't tell you anything till you lay down next to me?"

Siavass was the one who joined the group, as they were talking. In fact Siavass was still lying about the bunny rabbit comment!

muchadoaboutnothing 11-07-2009 04:55 PM

Norin is the victim my a***.

setanta 11-07-2009 04:59 PM

seriously saywhat.... i think you're totally under the womans spell

smartalec2718 11-07-2009 04:59 PM

Sigh...I disagree with the Noirin apologists. I find her really bitchy, false, and scheming.

tintedshadow 11-07-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SaphLiike
i read the first word and gave up ...but i disagree, i think Noirins really sneeky and bitchy
this..

and ill put it like this,for the most part when marcus isnt hounding noirin (which is true in part) you will notice noirin actually say she goes to him because he speaks the truth,although she has said things to contradict that lately so i suppose thats nor here nor there..

she has however been key in manipulating and simply using others for her own means until they are no longer of use to her..since the days when she felt the need to say "cute is the perfect way to describe angel,and not in a good looking way" (which F.Y.I was said way before angel ever said anything about her looking over weight)

simply put,noirin is far from a victim,if anything she is a victim to her own selfish and sneeky ways..i like most liked her when she first came in,and stepped up to the mark to have her eyebrows shaved off..since then she has stooped ever so low to prove her points and get her views heard..

however i do not see any reason to hate her nor anyone else in the house so suffice it to say she isnt much a favourite of mine..

vesavius 11-07-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saywhat
Long post but a good common sense read!

It is time to stand up for Noirin, as she seems to be getting the blame for Sree, Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit!

The first person to make a move on Noirin was Sree, and she dealt with it very well, untill Marcus made it blatantly obvious that he fancied her and started to manipulate Noirin and made the pair fall out.

I am disgusted with Marcusas an over grown 35 year old man, he is manipulating her left right a center, when all she wants is to get on with everyone, but he then goes and confuses her mind and makes her wary of others. This is why one minute she is as nice as pie, and then the next won't say anything to anyone else.

The conversations are there to see, when she states to Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit that she does not have a problem with anyone in the house, they start chipping away at her mind and make her feel paranoid towards others.

This is what Siavass tried to do with his bunny rabbit LIE, he didn't like the way she did get along with everyone, so he TRIED to plant a seed of doubt in her mind and made up a porkie...and no doubt he beliveMarcus would leave on Friday and then from there develop his relationship with Noirin. Even late last night I caught Siavass still lying about it, and trying to claim Kris was booted out because he didnt admit to the truth....and Noirin half fell for it and apologised for asking the RIGHT questions.

Back to Marcus as a 35 year old man, what a creep, he manipulates Norinin to sit on his lap like a pervy old man with a can of cidar. He manipulates Noirin to lay down next to him, in order for him to clarify the truth and I cannot see why the general public is so stupid that Noirin ends up getting the blame.

Halfwit on Noirin, damn I have nothing to say, he is reading ALL the wrong signals.

Here is hoping BB puts in a hunky shaven headed straight YOUNG FIT man Noirin fancies whilst he fancies Noirin too, which blows Manipulating Marcus and lying Siavass out of the waters.

There is nothing enigmatic about Noirin, it is simply a bunch of halfwits whowant to chase a bit of pretty skirt and boast how they got in first. Once she turned down Sree, it then became game on for the rest of their ego's.

In fact, Noirin was first friends with Lisa and followed her around like a sheep and I even worried at times if she fancied Lisa (the bald head would do it I guess), Marcus was the one who put a stop to that.
Bored of having the same conversation about Noirin because everyone seems to think their view is unique and special enough to not just add it to an exisiting thread.

One last time;

Noirin is a duplicitous user that has no concept of faith and loyalty.

She is happy to use and abuse as the current situation demands, simply discarding 'friends' once she is done with them.

I would imagine that she has never had a REAL friend in her using life, prefering to hang around with guys she knows fancy her (and NOT other girls that would see through her) because of the power and control that gives her over her environment. She makes nice, draws them in, and then rejects them for the control and power that gives her. This is obviously an established life pattern for her.

Because she is incapable of strength and loyalty towards her 'friends', she assumes that they are also incapable of giving it to her (auto-criticism), and thus she lives in a shadow world of transient and meaningless aquintences, uable to form the strength, trust, and loyalty that real friendship requires.

She is an emotional vacuum, only concerned with herself and how she feels, always playing the game to suit her and her only. People around her are only valued according to their immediate worth.

In short, she is a shallow, broken example of a human being and she deserves only the support that she gives others.

None.

*and breathe*

setanta 11-07-2009 05:07 PM

well said vesavius. she has a vacuum where other people have empathy and concern for others

Saywhat 11-07-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
seriously saywhat.... i think you're totally under the womans spell
I am a girl, and I have kept an eye on Marcus for weeks now. I just believe he was the one who made her fall out with Sree and ended the relationship she had with Lisa, which would have brought her closer to Kris, Charlie, Karly and Dogface in the end!

Marcus is 35 years of age, he knows what he is doing TRUST me on this one!

Twice I have seen Noirin use her looks, when she tried to get everyone to not eat inorder to take of her glasses, when the argument blew up, she left Marcus and Halfwit to argue it out with Lisa, when it was really her fault.....then she ran off to Lisa and once when she wore a tight outfit weeks ago for nominations...and I felt she was being tacky then.

But overall, I think Marcus is wearing her down, you would see a might better Noirin once he is gone!

tramp-stamp 11-07-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saywhat
Quote:

Originally posted by tramp-stamp
The last few days, Noirin has been virtually ignoring marcus, even saying that she doesnt want him to compliment her. Marcus has been sulking but he would have got over it

but then, he beat Kris in the eviction,

and Noirin wants to be his best friend again, he asks for hugs, and he gets them, he wants her attention and he gets it. Sure she continues to say that its nothing more than friendship, but thats a hundred times better than she was treating him a few days ago, and hes loving it

she had him at arms length when she thought he was gonna be evicted, if she had an ounce of integrity, then he would still be there
Gord damn it, you lot are very blindsighted when it comes to Noirin arent you?

How did she hear the bunny rabbit comments, werent she with Siavass, Halfwit and MARCUS?

Who forced her by manipulating means on thursday to lie next to him outside?

Noirin has been talking with Marcus for days now, all she doesnt want is a sexual relationship with him, and he is trying to sneak one out of her...big time!

So to say Noirin hasntbeen talking to Marcus until he was saved last night, is just a blatant LIE! Why can't Marcus get into his thick head SHE DOESNT FANCY HIM?

the other night in the bunny row, halfwit and siavash were freaks, siavash had to be a liar because kris and karly were noirins friends and couldnt possibly say anything bad about her.

Didnt see too many tears from noirin when Kris went tho? Maybe because after alienating team nerd, and showing her allegiancew to team nasty, the following day, team nasty blanked her (perhaps because in their eyes shes a rabbit and not to be trusted??)

As for marcus, Noirin needs him, nobody else apart from rodrigo will give her the time of day now, siavash and halfwit will play her for the value of her vote, but wont ever trust her again, the nasties will never trust her, she will probably latch onto the new housemates as and when they come, and in the meantime, shes got marcus

thenewguy 11-07-2009 05:11 PM

He was just telling her it as a friend, not to plant any seed! WTF? you are just as bad as Norin the professional reality tv show contestant

setanta 11-07-2009 05:11 PM

wait until new housemates come in.... she'll try to play them too. and i bet you she'll stop talking to freddie and marcus if there's a hot fella. she has all the power over marcus.... he's just a buffoon. but she's dangerous

tintedshadow 11-07-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vesavius
Quote:

Originally posted by Saywhat
Long post but a good common sense read!

It is time to stand up for Noirin, as she seems to be getting the blame for Sree, Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit!

The first person to make a move on Noirin was Sree, and she dealt with it very well, untill Marcus made it blatantly obvious that he fancied her and started to manipulate Noirin and made the pair fall out.

I am disgusted with Marcusas an over grown 35 year old man, he is manipulating her left right a center, when all she wants is to get on with everyone, but he then goes and confuses her mind and makes her wary of others. This is why one minute she is as nice as pie, and then the next won't say anything to anyone else.

The conversations are there to see, when she states to Marcus, Siavass and Halfwit that she does not have a problem with anyone in the house, they start chipping away at her mind and make her feel paranoid towards others.

This is what Siavass tried to do with his bunny rabbit LIE, he didn't like the way she did get along with everyone, so he TRIED to plant a seed of doubt in her mind and made up a porkie...and no doubt he beliveMarcus would leave on Friday and then from there develop his relationship with Noirin. Even late last night I caught Siavass still lying about it, and trying to claim Kris was booted out because he didnt admit to the truth....and Noirin half fell for it and apologised for asking the RIGHT questions.

Back to Marcus as a 35 year old man, what a creep, he manipulates Norinin to sit on his lap like a pervy old man with a can of cidar. He manipulates Noirin to lay down next to him, in order for him to clarify the truth and I cannot see why the general public is so stupid that Noirin ends up getting the blame.

Halfwit on Noirin, damn I have nothing to say, he is reading ALL the wrong signals.

Here is hoping BB puts in a hunky shaven headed straight YOUNG FIT man Noirin fancies whilst he fancies Noirin too, which blows Manipulating Marcus and lying Siavass out of the waters.

There is nothing enigmatic about Noirin, it is simply a bunch of halfwits whowant to chase a bit of pretty skirt and boast how they got in first. Once she turned down Sree, it then became game on for the rest of their ego's.

In fact, Noirin was first friends with Lisa and followed her around like a sheep and I even worried at times if she fancied Lisa (the bald head would do it I guess), Marcus was the one who put a stop to that.
Bored of having the same conversation about Noirin because everyone seems to think their view is unique and special enough to not just add it to an exisiting thread.

One last time;

Noirin is a duplicitous user that has no concept of faith and loyalty.

She is happy to use and abuse as the current situation demands, simply discarding 'friends' once she is done with them.

I would imagine that she has never had a REAL friend in her using life, prefering to hang around with guys she knows fancy her (and NOT other girls that would see through her) because of the power and control that gives her over her environment. She makes nice, draws them in, and then rejects them for the control and power that gives her. This is obviously an established life pattern for her.

Because she is incapable of strength and loyalty towards her friend, she assumes that they are also incapable of giving it to her (auto-criticism), and thus she lives in a shadow world of transient and meaningless aquintences, uable to form the strength, trust, and loyalty that real friendship requires.

She is an emotional vacuum, only concerned with herself and how she feels, always playing the game to suit her and her only. People around her are only valued according to their immediate worth.

In short, she is a shallow, broken example of a human being and she deserves only the support that she gives others.

None.

*and breathe*
every thread i see this guy in,i see only truth.. well said

Saywhat 11-07-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by setanta
wait until new housemates come in.... she'll try to play them too. and i bet you she'll stop talking to freddie and marcus if there's a hot fella. she has all the power over marcus.... he's just a buffoon. but she's dangerous
Hopefully a new housemate does come in and gets that monkey called Marcus off her back...what an old PERV!

setanta 11-07-2009 05:27 PM

yes he's a perv but she's playing a game..... toying with people. she'll do the same to new housemates.

spike007 11-07-2009 06:09 PM

can you noirin lovers not see that she is a user and when she has no use for you watch your back as the knives are out.

spike007 11-07-2009 06:10 PM

can you noirin lovers not see that she is a user and when she has no use for you watch your back as the knives are out.


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