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17-12-2011, 09:16 AM
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I will ask you too then joey...if it had been a...
I will ask you too then joey...if it had been a female, or an elderly person behaving in the way the student did...would you be commending the big mans actions then?
No dodging the question like...
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I agree with this.
I agree with this.
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15-12-2011, 02:15 AM
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I dont actually remember that part. However if it...
I dont actually remember that part. However if it was after being grabbed, I cant blame him. I would have done the same if some randomer grabbed hold of me on a train. Its called self defense.
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He didnt fall, he was pushed ...
He didnt fall, he was pushed
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As is shoplifting. If I go to tescos...
As is shoplifting.
If I go to tescos tomorrow and see someone slying vodka in their bag, its ok for me to plant them one? After all, they were breaking the law...right?
Or if some drunk is...
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15-12-2011, 02:01 AM
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In certain cases an assault may be justified by...
In certain cases an assault may be justified by showing that it was done under the authority of the law; in defence of others
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Well it wasnt really done under the authority of law tbh
And...
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14-12-2011, 07:28 PM
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Pretty sure I have read every post in this thread...
Pretty sure I have read every post in this thread and I dont think I have seen even one saying he should get special treatment :conf:
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14-12-2011, 07:03 PM
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Pretty sure the T&Cs dont mention 'if you fail to...
Pretty sure the T&Cs dont mention 'if you fail to provide a ticket a random other passenger will be allowed to intervene and throw you off the train with much more force than necessary'. I would...
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14-12-2011, 06:58 PM
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:conf: As for the rest...if the complaint...
:conf:
As for the rest...if the complaint is not withdrawn...and the guy IS charged with assault...will you accept then that it was assault? Or will you be saying the police are wrong so that you...
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14-12-2011, 06:50 PM
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Oh I think the very vast majority(pretty much...
Oh I think the very vast majority(pretty much everyone except one or two) would agree that it IS assault. Some of those may think it was deserved...thats their choice...and a different argument...
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14-12-2011, 06:35 PM
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Basically what we have learned from this...
Basically what we have learned from this thread...is that contrary to popular belief... two (or three) wrongs DO make a right. And that swearing or dodging train fares means you should be...
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14-12-2011, 06:33 PM
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Oh ffs...you knew what I meant. One would...
Oh ffs...you knew what I meant.
One would assume that someone in a position of power/a work, would follow procedure and do things the right way...no?
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14-12-2011, 06:31 PM
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Still, this does not mean that every youngster is...
Still, this does not mean that every youngster is carrying a knife. And it would be ridiculous of the conductor to assume that. if he is seriously that paranoid, he shouldnt be at work anyway, he...
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14-12-2011, 06:29 PM
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Difference is, the lad doesnt have to be...
Difference is, the lad doesnt have to be professional and follow procedure to travel on a train. Someone at work, and trained to deal with situations like this, should know better :)
Im pretty...
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14-12-2011, 06:22 PM
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Well I dont particularly want to be stabbed...
Well I dont particularly want to be stabbed either. Nor do I assume that just because someone is young and rude, that they are carrying a knife and going to use it on me :crazy:
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14-12-2011, 06:19 PM
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As has already been stated multiple times on...
As has already been stated multiple times on here...I dont think anyone is saying the lad was in the right for the way he spoke to the conductor.
But just because he was rude unnecessarily, does...
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14-12-2011, 05:16 PM
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Oh yeah I agree with this. Just annoys me...
Oh yeah I agree with this.
Just annoys me when its always the parents fault...rather than the youths taking some responsibility for their own actions. Was like that with the riots...everyone...
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14-12-2011, 05:07 PM
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You cant always blame the parents for kids going...
You cant always blame the parents for kids going bad...so many factors come into it at times :/
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14-12-2011, 03:59 PM
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Might have seemed like a minute to the lad, but...
Might have seemed like a minute to the lad, but seemed like 10 to those waiting...I know when Im in a queue in the bank or something im probably only there for 2 mins or so but it feels like half an...
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14-12-2011, 02:20 PM
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Yup, good point.
Yup, good point.
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14-12-2011, 02:19 PM
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Why do you think that? After all the man was...
Why do you think that? After all the man was apparently just trying to help the conductor...surely if this was the case he would have respected his wishes...no?
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14-12-2011, 02:13 PM
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We are on the same page then ;) Except, of...
We are on the same page then ;)
Except, of course, for the whole 'big man' part :laugh:
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14-12-2011, 02:07 PM
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A little bit like many hypothetical situations...
A little bit like many hypothetical situations were brought into it in defense of the 'big man'? Including how it was no different to a bouncer doing their job, or that he could be an off duty copper?
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14-12-2011, 02:05 PM
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Yes I did hear them...but he encouraged it with...
Yes I did hear them...but he encouraged it with what he was saying, when he SHOULD have been trying to diffuse it all...not wind people up more(with lies such as, we will stay here all day or...
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14-12-2011, 02:02 PM
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I dont think shasown meant that literally. ...
I dont think shasown meant that literally.
His point was more no matter what the circumstances...the bloke had no right to throw him off the train, especially as roughly as he did.
I may be...
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