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Originally Posted by Vicky.
Oh thats just my own personal opinion on the matter tbh.
Obviously goes a lot deeper than this, and there are multiple other examples, but its very clear to me that the majority of transactivists are just MRAs with a new angle to attack womens rights. This image gives the gist of it, though maybe is a bit childish
(AGAIN, though it shouldn't need saying, I am not saying all transsexual women are MRAs. But I do feel that the majority of transactivists, especially ones I have personally encountered are. And I think your common garden variety misogynist is very attracted to this movement as they get to tell women to shut the **** up AND seem all 'woke' when doing so. Seems to attract a lot of incels too.)
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Whatever the case, Vicky, that's a
really interesting theory. Some keen insight there. Even if it's only a subconscious thing, I could see that playing out to some degree as you say... it's certainly more convincing than throwing around the word "patriarchy" anytime someone wants to get their point across... in your points, it sounds like you and even Livia may have touched on a nerve, things going on beneath the surface that maybe we discount somewhat with the topic of the moment being transactivism.
Myself though, my distraction is probably that I do tend to think men get an unfair wrap sometimes. It does take mutual cooperation for any lasting changes to occur, something we have forgotten in an era that centers around the activists themselves.
I do see the sexes as two necessary forces in life that are forced to work together, even if they often don't want to. Kind of life marriage, really

... one can't live without the other and so-on... our society would fall apart. So I do think there is a breaking point when either or one of the sexes is put underneath a lot of stress... as we've seen in the past and are seeing today.
I don't think I've ever met someone who is an MRA? So I don't have a mental framework for those type of folk, how they would think. I think the closest equivalent are maybe some people I'd seen or heard about on YT. It's hard to tell how much of that is authentic hough, with everything being about inducing shock vs. woke-ness...
I know we all know some men who have issues with the patronizing attitude that comes from Feminism towards them and their own thought-processes... that they just can't help but be men, and yet, are supposed to help it at the same time

... and there are some great reasons for some of that criticism imo. To be fair, I prefer a world where we criticize and criticize often... as long as it remains
constructive and not
destructive... that's the balance.
Edit: Also that image was hilarious...