Remembering Kerry
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Remembering Kerry
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Labour has not captured the unifying ground and now needs to really come down on one side.
I think it should take the anti brexit line.
Labour has been consistent, it has always wanted a customs union arrangement, as close to the single market as possible and never in support of no deal.
That's pretty clear to me.
The country and Parties are divided on the best way forward.
It was never going to be easy, Labour are not the government.
The Conservative party is.
The mess is theirs but to be fair the mess is understandable.
Theresa May who I dislike totally, got an agreement the best she could..
It's some of HER party who wrecked that and her premiership, no one else.
The fudge from Labour on another vote is what Labour needs to clear up.
It should support one unconditionally.
Stop trying to unite those who have no wish to be unified.
Corbyn needs to lead and not muddle things as he has on the referendum so far.
Things are not clear or easy on brexit, it's not wrong to try to find a way to fuse together two sides but it's failed for Labour.
Mainly because of Corbyn's mixed thinking on another vote.
The Conservative message is unclear too.
The SNP, Greens, Plaid Cynru and Lib Dems want to remain.
That's clear, that works.
In remaining nothing changes.
The Brexit supporters in Parliament need to be more honest.
Some want a soft brexit they call it.
Some an arrangement like May's agreement.
Some want out at any cost to everyone.
This was always going to be difficult.
Now 3 years on, a lot has been learned, and changed.
If we'd got moving out a year after the referendum, instead of the sideshow of Mrs May's general election.
Fine.
Two further years on from that.
I hated the thought of another vote, now 3 years on, I've changed my mind.
I'm sure I'm not the only one to do so either.
If brexit supporters really do believe, the Country still wants to leave.
Then why they fear another vote is beyond me.
If I believed I'd win a vote and win another too, I'd love to have and be eager to have such votes.
I think Corbyn's problem may be more about, he wants to leave for his agenda and so fears another vote going the other way.
That for me is the only confusion for me as to Labours stance.
For the life of me, I'll never understand why Corbyn helped support the ERG wing of the Conservatives and the DUP, by whipping his MPs against May's agreement with the EU.
I feel, if he fails now to support another public vote.
He should be replaced too.
Last edited by joeysteele; 28-05-2019 at 10:31 AM.
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