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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
I just can't see that the element motivated by their sexuality is hatred or fear or disgust which to me are essential components of homophobia.
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I get where you are coming from but..I know dislike/hatred it technically the definition of homophobia, but I would also probably say the likes of fetishisation are on very dodgy ground. I don't really mean like, men who like lesbian porn as that would mean half the male population was homophobic, but when they transfer that to real life..I don't know how to explain what I mean here to be honest. Mind, I also guess that part could be pure old male entitlement also, thinking that basically, people just exist to get them off.
I still think this is a mix of homophobia, miosgyny and male entitlement, all in one lovely ****ing mix. I do think theres a chance these lads would have done it to any female couple sat there, be they partners or friends, but, even that has an element of homophobia to it in my eyes because they are..well basically assuming that women who might/do have attaraction to other women are there for their enjoyment, nothing else, and are willing to physically attack them when the women say no. If gay men had been attacked for being presumed to be gay, even if they were straight, the intent was to beat a couple of gay people so while the attack would not be homophobc due to, well the victims not being gay, the thought behind the attack was homophobic. If that make sense. I wonder if in that case..the prosecution would actually have the hate crime element, as the intent was there, just they were mistaken in their victim choice? Not something I have thought about before.