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And I know Ledger's joker didn't have specific origin but he was played as a deeply angry and broken individual. He was fantastic and like I said, a great version of The Joker for Nolan's interpretation of Batman, but that trilogy was entirely intended to be a more grounded interpretation of the material. Bane wasn't huge and green, for example, and characters like Batman himself and Catwoman had much more "realistic" human abilities than most versions. In fact, a huge theme of Dark Knight Rises was Batman's realistic physical fragility.