[bitontheslide]

i think it's important that experts are realistic in the numbers they present to us.

Just to put it in to perspective. If we had done nothing, the expected death toll would have been 500,000, if we had kept to basic social distancing, the death rate would be 250,000

Other countries may have done better in the short term because they were more rigorous with isolation, but they are all seeing rises again now. They haven't beaten it yet ... nothing like it