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Originally Posted by Niamh.
Exactly. And this is why the shutting down of any attempts at conversation about self ID, trans rights vs women's sex based rights etc is damaging to both women and trans women. Telling a group who are genuinely concerned about how their rights will be affected by new laws to shut up and start calling them names and threatening them if they don't is really only going to cause a bigger divide and so much bad blood
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I think there are two groups of people genuinely worried about their future and rights and because there's such strong resistance around having actual vulnerable, open conversations about it it's spiraling into frustration and anger at an increasing pace. Any open conversation about this involves acknowledging that there is a difference between transwomen and biologically female women and that has become an unapproachable topic... I have no idea how any progress can be made at all from that point.