[bitontheslide]

Hillary was not well liked, i said from the outset of that election that she would lose, and i put money on it too, so I don't think it was a surprise at all.

This election is somewhat different. I don't think Biden is well liked, but people have had 4 years to experience Trump now ....and if the majority think that he is still best for the country, well, it's their choice, but America will never be respected again in the wider community