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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Why does the US have such difficulty separating socialism from communism? The rest of the western world seems to have managed to do it.
Exactly! People should be afraid of communism, but socialism? Nah mate. If I had to label myself I'd say "old school liberal, but with environmentalism overriding anything when there's conflict" but socialism is better than a lot of the other alternatives out there!

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No surprise there. I have no doubt that both candidates got some fraudulant votes from individuals, like someone voting on behalf of a dead relative or crossing state lines to vote twice etc, but fraud at the level Trump seems to think ...

If there really was that level of "Deep State" meddling going on, it would either be too well hidden for Trump's investigations to uncover, or the Republicans would have been involved so they can get rid of him and remodel their party out of their shadow.

I don't think it's likely at all, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised either, I have a rather low opinion of most politicians and political systems
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