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Old 11-11-2020, 12:09 PM #2553
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W View Post
Exactly! People should be afraid of communism, but socialism? Nah mate. If I had to label myself I'd say "old school liberal, but with environmentalism overriding anything when there's conflict" but socialism is better than a lot of the other alternatives out there!


No surprise there. I have no doubt that both candidates got some fraudulant votes from individuals, like someone voting on behalf of a dead relative or crossing state lines to vote twice etc, but fraud at the level Trump seems to think ...

If there really was that level of "Deep State" meddling going on, it would either be too well hidden for Trump's investigations to uncover, or the Republicans would have been involved so they can get rid of him and remodel their party out of their shadow.

I don't think it's likely at all, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised either, I have a rather low opinion of most politicians and political systems

Exactly, some level of dubious voting is present in every election but it's a non-partisan issues (there will be a few questionable votes for any candidate) so they cancel each other out, and also it's statistically around 0.03% of votes or less so would only make a difference in an EXTREMELY close vote (a margin of a few hundred votes).

Elections can be overturned on recount as we saw with Gore/Bush... but that was because a large state with a lot of electoral votes came down to a razor thin margin. It's just not going to happen when the voting margins are tens of thousands of votes, and they would need to overturn multiple states.
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