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Old 01-03-2021, 02:16 PM #7
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I must say all this news of the Brazilian variant being ‘somewhere’ in the uk very unsettling ... it apparently spreads like wildfire and there’s thousands of people in Brazil who got the Brazilian one AFTER they’d already suffered with the original Covid months previously .

That basically suggests that everyone can potentially get the Brazilian one now ( apart from MAYBE the folk who’ve had a vaccine-as they’re HOPING the vaccines will give some protection)
This is going to sound a bit odd, but news of more contagious strains actually makes me a bit hopeful. Viruses tend to mutate to be more spreadable but less dangerous, apparently this is basically down to their sole purpose in life is to spread to as many hosts as possible. Assuming covid behaves as other viruses do..that would kind of be a great thing. I was challenged on this, IIRC last time I said it and told it takes hundreds of years for this to happen or something, but..that stuck in my head and I asked a qualified mate (who told me all the mutation crap in the first place, while I sat fascinated for hours) who reckons these changes CAN be quite quick. Says it wont 'turn into something like seasonal flu' as such quickly, but its entirely normal for viruses to mutate quickly to be easily spread but less dangerous. Reckons if a strain takes prominence, and is more contagious but safer, its better all round, and on balance that sounds about right really. (Also does not believe Boris claiming the xmas strain was 20% more deadly aswell as more easily spread, and thinks that was boris covering his own arse for his ****show of rules changing and free for all on xmas day, again, seems plausible really )

I really do feel, and will stay this way until they tell me otherwise, that this 'new mutation' stuff is..scaremongering. It was VERY noticeable to me, the way mutations were barely even mentioned until the vaccine was done. Then suddenly, mutations everywhere, omg they might make the vaccine pointless! When, mutations have been all over from the start realistically. I might be wrong, but it really does come across as a kind of..project fear thing (haha, I didnt believe that was a thing, when it was around..I get it now!), a backup plan even, for if they do feel the need to put lockdown back/halt opening.

I think part of my mistrust comes from months of actual clear and obvious scaremongering though. Even 'the scientists' have done it, though obviously not as often as the media, or the government. I especially hate the 'new way' of floating controversial ideas in the press then deciding on them based on reaction. Like, thats a horrific way to run a country. They might nt be doing that, being very generous, but it really really looks like they are and its happened too many times for me to write off as coincidence now

You really would think there would be at least some..not conclusive..but some data on if the vaccines reduce transmission though. A few of the 'mutations' have been claimed to be possibly resistant...weeks back some, yet still nothing? Even basically very rough data, is better than this bloody limbo situation. Vaccines have been going for months. I assume, they found it reduces transmission to some degree, but they don't know how much. Even saying just that, is better than the silence. IF it doesnt reduce transmission (I remain cautiously optomistic on that one really...not sure) they also need to be bloody honest and just say it doesn't look hopeful.

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