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there are a whole host of reasons why labour is basically unelectable. They are a mess, and as i said way earlier in the thread, i think ultimately in order for a party to emerge that can compete with the tories, it will need to split up, there are too many competing/warring factions that are fundamentally incompatible with each other on policy. That results in a watered down policy from whatever side you view it from. It's untenable really. They can kid themselves otherwise, but the last few years have shown the deep divides. The tory party has divides too, but the branch in charge don't allow policy to be watered down by the more moderate tories to the same extent as labour.