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I have to take major issue with those advocating the Labour Party split.
To quote Mrs Thatcher as she once said on a EU issue.
I'd echo her NO, NO, NO.

Maybe from my more suspicious mind, that suggestion comes from either happily identifiable or closet hard-line Con supporters.
Who vote Conservative.
Who know any split would MORE likely ensure endless Con rule.
As in the 80s the great gift to the Cons and Thatcher then, who went on to go from a 43 overall majority to a 144 one and 14 years of further power on top of the 4 years they'd already had.

In this ridiculous and outdated election system..
I think, the Cons will always get on or just above 30% of votes in elections.
The Labour party unlikely to fall under 25% in elections.

There's then the rest of voters who at times float between the 2 parties.
Giving one on or just above 40% with the other in the 30s as a percentage.

So for those advocating the Labour Party split into 2 parties.
They know fine well.
When under this archaic election system, the vote would then swing towards a more social conscience and genuine caring policy making.
That with now 2 parties from the one Labour one.

You'd get let's say anything from 15 to 20 % for one and around 20 to 25% for the other.
Leaving the Cons, in the 30% ranges therefore ensuring under this electoral system.
Only the Cons benefit.

Now, if we had PR the split to 2 Parties makes more sense as the possible usual Labour vote in a favourable election, would be proportionally recognised in numbers of seats too.

No, absolutely no to Labour splitting again as in the 80s to suit Con supporters.
No way.
Labour is a broad church, we do disagree in it, we argue with each other, we make life hard for our leaders.
We do though come together on vital issues to remove things like heartless humiliation of the weakest in society, to the sick, disabled and all vulnerable.
Something those hard- line Con supporters don't care one bit as to what policies their Con government inflicts on them.