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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
Of course it's reactrionary; it's a pre-scripted stock reaction to an expected set of events. There is no thought, there is no rationale, and these groups have a lot (a LOT) more in common than they do setting them apart. That's the most worrying part. The idea that these represent different ends of a spectrum... they don't. They're different flavours of the same brand of ice-cream, and it would take a lot (a lot, lot, lot) to convince me that the people with the masks, placards and loudspeakers don't have a hell of a lot more of the features of reactionary conservatism than they do anything remotely resembling progressives/liberalism. It's BS. It's a reactionary conservative mindset that happens to be infused with a different set of core values - the people involved are generally very young. This is their conservatism, and the groups seen in these videos are ALL employing the tactics of facism.
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I think we're working from different definitions of reactionary. I agree with pretty much everything else you wrote after the initial definition, but I disagree that any movement that doesn't yet have full recognition could ever be conserved.
There are plenty of other useable descriptors we would probably agree on without any hassle, such as puritanical.