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Old 15-11-2021, 08:36 PM #48
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Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
Well, it's a good job no one is saying women should give up their rights, isn't it? Inventing arguments that people haven't made to score points isn't a good look.
At the absolute minimum, women have the right to open academic debate before changes are made to protections that were put into place specifically for women (hard-won protections, one might add) and an open and honest examination of the evidence base for it being a) safe and b) necessary... plus the right to offer counterpoints to that debate without being attacked or harrassed (or doxxed, or fired) for it.

That is not currently on offer. Debate is labelled hateful and transphobic by its very existence.

I'm not even conservative (in the literal sense) on this topic I think there are probably solutions and compromises that make things safer and fairer across the board - it's not as though things couldn't be improved regardless so why would anyone strictly want things to stay just as they are - but that place simply can't be reached without allowing research and debate. If there's no impact on women's rights then allow robust, peer-reviewed literature to show that there's no impact on women's rights and then you can state that there isn't with some actual gravitas. Until then there's just no realistic justification that it's reasonable to expect anyone to blindly accept.
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