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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
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For once I don't totally disagree with Alf. What's happening in Ukraine is a humanitarian tragedy for the people just trying to live there, for the people or Russia as well in fact, potentially for a lot more people too, but politically..? Yes I think we're in the midst of the biggest propaganda campaign of living memory. The things that are in the mainstream media - here in Europe, in the US, in Russia, everywhere - are absolute ****ing nonsense that have little basis in political reality of any kind. It's also abundantly clear that this narrative has been brewing for YEARS and spanned, at the very least, most if not all of Trump's 4 years. I think there was quite a clear "plan". Actually I think the only part of the "plan" that has gone wrong, is that Trump was "supposed to" secure a 2nd term, and if he had, the Ukraine situation would already be over.
To take an even deeper dive - I think there probably was voting irregularity in the US election. I think there probably was something off going on with postal voting. But I now think that was to counter Russian interference that was supposed to guarantee a Trump landslide. I think had Trump still been in the Whitehouse, Ukraine would have been given to Russia on a platter, or still self-governing but set up as a guaranteed neutral DMZ, with barely a bullet fired.
Some very worrying pieces of the last 5 years of politics are starting to make much more sense.
Last edited by user104658; 07-03-2022 at 09:43 AM.
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