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Old 10-11-2022, 11:30 AM #10
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Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
I'm not taking lectures on Corbyn.
He was never my choice of Leader but I as a member went leafleting and canvassing for Labour under his leadership in 2 elections.
2017 and 2019 just as strongly as I had for Miliband in 2015.

I believe in Party policies not individuals.

I don't know how many times I've to say Wes Streeting was wrong to comment.
He was.
I agree too with bots perhaos Health isn't the department he should have.
Angela Raynor still gets hammered for using scum as a word for the Cons.

Niamh is also absolutely right.
Dementia is NOT an illness to even think of joking about never mind do so.

Wes Streeting will regret it, in part now because outs there now.
I know Wes, he's always in my view been a decent guy.
However totally wrong here on this.

You can let the Speaker off the hook all you wish.
I repeat however I know of NO Speaker or Deputy Speaker who when engaging with an MP.
Then asks any other MP or MPs from any Party what they've said.

I don't rate this Speaker and haven't since his appointment as arista knows well froom my exchanges with him on Hoyle.

If he cannot hear an MP it's his job he makes sure he does hear from them, and ONLY them not asking others what that MP has said.
So he in effect set Corbyn up himself for more ridicule.

As Deputy Speaker did last week when Corbyn said it was clear he Corbyn lived in Sunak's head it seemed.
However Evans ridiculed him and twisted it to say it was likely Sunak would continue to live in Corbyn's head.

The Speakers are there to be impartial and fair.
This current Speaker and the Deputy Evans are far from it in my view.
Sadly Corbyn remains an object of ridicule.
To way too many in parliament.

Having said that, I was not a personal supporter of Corbyn.
Although yes I was a supporter of most of his policies in 2017 and 2019.

I've never ever altered my thinking on those and hope most of them will find their way I to new policy making too.
I know you like Wes, which is why we're having this discussion (it's not personal against you - hope you understand that's not my intention), but Streeting is now and has always been a snidey fcuking weasel. Bragged about not campaigning for labour, and this is a man that you, as a labour activist, shill for.

It's nothing to do with the speaker at all. I don't disagree with what you're saying. Streeting worked against Corbyn, just because he wanted to fund the NHS, end homelessness, and offer a vision that something better is possible. It's painful to see the labour party and it's operatives protect red tories.

There is no way in hell I will vote for labour, and no one on the actual left, not the pretend labourites, should either. Labour is attacking the government from the right, and you shouldn't want any part of that.
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