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Originally Posted by Swan
That's fair. But you hammer Wes, which is fine, you see him as a Tory, that's up to you. I see him more of a Centre Left who could maybe be a bit more open minded. Because what the left are doing with Keir right now isn't working. I've admitted to you before i was wrong about Corbyn. I don't think he's a bad person, sometimes misled, but over all i can see the good in a number of his policies. I've also expressed my disdain for most Tories. I would never vote Tory. But as it stands i would never vote Labour either.
Anyway, without getting too deep. I feel the left struggle because so many want to see injustice when it isn't really there, the Central leaning person asks questions = Left "RACIST, PHOBE" The Right = "you make a fair point"
A tactical change and all that. Politics is the art of the possible. The Left continue to ask for the impossible. And berate those who question them, and brand them you know what
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You've just placed your inherent biases into that framing, which is fine, but just be aware that you're doing it, and that it isn't neutral observation.
Corbyn wasn't misled. he stood on his platform, a great platform by the way that would actually address many of the issues the country faces, especially today. But we got may and Johnson instead. that's democracy. Offering the same things as tories, is not a strategy that will work, when the actual tories are prepared to pander to the even more base instincts of the right. It was the labour right that worked to prevent Corbyn winning in 17, when he had a chance in a non-brexit election. That is a fact that can be proved as labour files and internal documents over years have been released.
Socialism is an economic philosophy, the rest is just nonsense.