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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet
climate change has always happened
we had an ice age 10k years ago
warming and cooling has always happened on roughly 100,000-year cycles for at least the last 1 million years.
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Overwhelming scientific consensus is that human activity is accelerating climate change and disrupting the normal cycles. Only some random hacks dispute this.
The idea that all of these academics and scientists are part of a grand global conspiracy and/or in the pockets of [wherever the supposed financial gain is today] is just silly. Silly, far fetched nonsense.
"Hunter Biden's laptop that contains an advanced AI that controls the US government is faking climate change because Rishi Sunak wants to put tax up by 2p in the pounds or something".
Drives me nuts.
If someone fancies posing an actual believable reason that there would be a grand global conspiracy to fake it then I'm willing to listen. Currently... It just doesn't make sense. So as long as 90+% of professionals in the field are saying "these climate fluctuations are outwith what's normal and here's how human industrial activity is affecting it"... I'm going to believe it's that simple. And not believe that they're all government shills. Which is daft. And I've only ever heard it being said by laypeople with no actual expertise.
The only thing I think is of note, is that it is clearly the widescale activity of huge manufacturing economies and other large scale things that are quite clearly the major causes... Things that us average Joe's can do absolutely nothing about. The idea that someone cycling to work or doing a bit of lift-sharing is going to make any difference at all vs. a BRIC factory churning away 24/7 is also daft.
So I'm not actually saying that people should believe it with a view to actually doing anything about it. Just that it's better to accept reality than delude oneself with more comfortable lies. "Everything it's fine, it's just the tax man wanting a wee bit more" must be a nice headspace to exist in. "We broke the planet, wups!" is a harder sell

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