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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper
I have said the events are horrific, but I also understand that a country being occupied has a right to fight back against the subjugation they are forced to endure, and they have been so thoroughly trod upon, that they basically have no way to fight back on their own. I pointed out the 2018 march of silence they undertook, and no one gave a sh1t about them, then. Desperation doesn't disappear. Absolutely zero acknowledgement for the true conditions in Palestine. The sanctions imposed on Palestine by Israel also fail to discern between citizens and the military, with the citizens being picked off the streets and tortured. I guess that's crickets though, right?
Then you tried to make it an anti-Semitism issue, which is the most cynical and appalling of your points.
Please explain the humane way you can fight back against an oppressor on your doorstep and in your country depriving you of the most basic of human rights, then we can talk.
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Hardly appalling, it's pretty intrinsically connected to this conflict. If those celebrating in London last night had seen a Jewish person walking past I've no doubt they'd crank up those celebrations an extra notch. Again it's because of the lack of distinction between state and citizen, apparently any Israeli is a legitimate target and an extension of that is a hostility to Jewish people worldwide. I'm not accusing you of that but Hamas are explicitly anti-Semitic as are many Islamists.
I'm not arrogant enough to pretend to know the answer to the conflict but I know what it isn't. I also know that Hamas have been in control of Gaza for over a decade and have done nothing to advance the cause of peace. What they have done is oppressed their own citizens, ruled with an iron fist, used civilians as human shields, used rape as a weapon and killed innocents. Mostly while their leadership lives in luxury in Qatar by the way. The idea that Hamas care about human rights is laughable. These people are not your allies. I don't really know what it would take for some in the pro-Palestine movement to have their 'are we the bad guys' moment - apparently the rape, abduction and murder of innocent people isn't it.