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I am.more a socialist but also a realist.

Labour or no other Party is likely to win on a full socialist programme.
It was more presented in 2017 and 2019 beaten and rejected both times.

The only real socialist government the UK has had was in 1945 to 1951.
In my view only from talking to others, and researching that period.
That was likely the best government the UK had post war.

However the Country won't support it now.
The argument will need to be made and won when and if the time comes for it again.

Yes extreme left, if I consider there's an extreme right then there will inevitably be an extreme on the other side too.
The problem with MPs like Corbyn and Abbott etc.
Are the way they played out being thorns in the side of Labour leaders and even Prime Ministers

For a good while the left dominated the NEC and yes more extreme left candidates got elected to it
Which made the life of Labour leaders and PMs even that bit more difficult.

Abbott is now being ridiculous because MPs like her once hailed the NEC as almighty.
Yet she will not wait for the NEC to say if she can stand for election, before spouting negativity to the Party and it's leader.
From what she's said tonight, what on earth could she even want to stand for Labour again for.

Starmer has many faults but if she really had an ounce of thought for Labour, Labour supporters and those voters who may want a more compassionate and fairer government, then she'd hold back.

She looks and sounds ridiculous and despite ALL my reservation on Starmer.
If I was him, I'd be doing all I could to prevent her now standing as a Labour candidate.

She may have once been a trailblazer, however now she's just more like an embarrassment to the Party and even herself.