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Old 22-08-2024, 07:32 PM #447
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Originally Posted by Ammi View Post
…the crowd sizes are completely irrelevant as well because it just all becomes part of the ‘presidential campaign race’ game they play…mine’s bigger than yours, no mine is…yours only appears bigger because it isn’t real/yes it is/no it isn’t…lol, lol, lol….

…the only thing that’s relevant is who will win that race and sit in the big White House chair and I don’t think in the U.K. that we ever have such a clear view of that…Campaign rallies and their attendance vary so much because every state is like a separate country size for us so it’s hard for us to equate our own politics on the run up to elections etc…
It really means nothing to us either, because our political and geographical makeup is too diverse. The camera pans with the crowds has the effect of helping to organize propaganda around those candidates, which is expected.

Our demographics are also shifting due to increased movement between the States due to economic and sociopolitical factors (mainly policy) that it's shifting quite a bit even within 5 years time. COVID also played a part in moving people further away from the cities. National media can't portray the US accurately now, even if it wants to. So it's going to be slanted coverage no matter what, because to give a sense of authority, they have to least pretend they're connected to the country they're covering It helps if they can convince themselves this is still possible...


Re:Polls water it down to a simpler measurement, but it's not conducive to an accurate description as to the dialogue of an entire country. It does give a surface view, but there's just so many factors. I still think it's fine to rely on it for an overall view, though. They capture the sentiment of the moment relatively well, as long as one doesn't read too deeply into it.

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i think whoever is doing these type of things wants to pack arenas out, but Trump does appear to care more about it than most by suggesting the Harris crowds were AI generated and making up excuses why he wasn't getting the crowds or flat out lying about it

The simple reality is that they both have a similar number of supporters so comparing crowd sizes is almost completely irrelevant
She wasn't voted in it properly, so we can't say what her support is yet. They're clearly pushing her hard because they're nervous about her reception. She's running as a Democratic anti-Trump ticket, at best. (Which is fine, it's better than running a dementia-riddled candidate). We don't know her true appeal. We may not know that if and after she gets elected.

I don't disagree they can draw similar crowds. It comes down to who wants to actually appear for these things and where they do them From what I listen to in my own time, it sounds like these rallies can be like a social gathering, that is, people go to meet people who share similar values to them and just enjoy being near the energy of that candidate... some people go to find out for themselves what it's all about also. I'd considered going in the past when Obama was campaigning. Now I'm too concerned with personal safety. But I'm very conscientious.

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