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Originally Posted by BBXX
I hope this post doesn't offend anyone but I do think people are getting a bit confused between societal privilege and what Ali was talking about which is societal power and I do think that the power (i.e: the influence) a person holds is far more closely measured by your sex than any other aspect of your upbringing or culture
For example, I am a middle class white gay man. In the totem pole of societal privilege I would have certain privileges that I benefit from because I am both a man and white.
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I see zero evidence of this in 2024 Britain. Can you give examples where white men have more power or influence or privilege in UK society? I mean, the last Tory leader was an Indian man, and the next seems likely to be a black woman.
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Originally Posted by BBXX
However, in the totem pole of societal power, I believe I would be ranked below straight men of all classes, nationalities and creeds because society, in general, sees gay men as 'lesser men'
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Again, I see zero evidence of this. Indeed, I would say gay men are elevated above straight men in general, especially in the UK media/ Arts (which they more or less run). This is not the world of Quentin Crisp anymore and people need to stop pretending it is.
The truth is that there is no 'totem pole'. A man is not held back by his sexual preference at all in 2024. In fact, in the UK no immutable characteristic is a barrier. I feel people invent the idea that there is out of some kind of need for victimhood. The only thing that matters in the UK is wealth... The wealth to enable opportunity, good connections, and the wealth to buy a good education and nice accent for your children. When you have those nothing else matters.
But what Ali was saying in the
house there is a hierarchy of power. She wasn't talking about wider society. She was stating that the lads were above her in that house and that she was on the bottom of a pyramid of patriarchy as the 'plucky freedom fighter', even as she sits on the HoH bed.
I am asking for someone that agrees with her on that to say why that's true and show me where the 3 lads have any more power than her and her little gang.