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George delivered it clumsily, but he was right
It came across as confused and heavy handed in the way that he delivered it and it was also heavily edited so that may have done him no favours, but the lad was right.
I think George should have been more specific... He should have differentiated between British and English.
British is a very wide umbrella and doesn't really have a specific culture. The Scottish are very different to the English for example, and the existence of the Empire has broadened that term even more of course. I feel many parts of the old Empire could rationally consider themselves British. I have no issue with that. Rishi Sunak or David Lammy are British. They are not English though.
English, and I fee this is what George was really meaning, is more specific. It is to be part of a cultural story that goes back generations... It is a unique modern expression of a combination of different influences from over hundreds of years. A British Indian has a different story to a British Englishman.
George is correct. Multiculturism (a neoliberal creation that only serves to allow them to move cheap taxable labour around faster) has served to dilute the English identity. It HAS created division and friction as special interest groups inevitably assert themselves. It HAS served to damage the core social fabric of this country. It HAS made us all demonstrably unsafer and understandably less secure. It has turned a high trust society into a low trust one.
When we have elected local representatives more interested in building an airport in Pakistan than dealing with the issues of their elected city, of course there is a problem. When the voice of the native population is suppressed in case it offends a given religion because many in that religion see killing as a justifiable response, of course we have a problem.
George has many of the right ideas but lacks the ability to express them.
TBC, I am pro slow controlled immigration and cultural integration, I am anti fast uncoltrolled immigration and multiculturalism. Don't come at me with any kind of 'racist' nonsense, I am not anti immigration.
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