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Old 15-07-2008, 11:54 AM #5
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It was contradictory, the verse they quoted doesn't fit the sayings and doings of Prophet mohammed, and in various places they made mistakes in translations like the sword verses, If they for example interviewed something like Dr Zakir naik he would of made mincemeat of them.
But the verses they did quote, exist - right?
I explained in previous posts that many of the verse they quoted was totally out of context, for example the sword verse was in noway refer to every non-muslim. If you read the chapter and look into historical context it talks about during the new religion Islam, Pagans were worshipping idols, and they saw Islam as a threat to their trade business of their Idol gods. The tribes didn't like that, they then wanted exterminate prophet and his people for years, the tribe were also racist, they owned black slave which prophet freed those slave like Black bilal. In context God gave muslims permission to fight against them to defend themselves and kill them when you encounter war on the field, but if they surrender and ask for peace then give them peace and end the fight, this verse wasn't even quoted which was next verse before it spoke of killing. In the War prophet Mohammed told his army that only kill those army, but dont kill their womens, children, elderly people. If Prophet asked his people to kill everyone who doesn't convert then why did he Marry a chirisitian called Marry and a Jew who both of them repsected the prophet.

They didn't quote the full verse they quoted part of it to justify that Quran is aginst humanity, they also didn't quote the next verse which gives them the answer, they quoted verse Chapter 2:191, but not 2:192 and 490 which gives them the answers.

[2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers.

Next two verse says:

[2:192] If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.

Hmm they didn't quote these.

Plus another chapter says:

[4:90] Exempted are those who join people with whom you have signed a peace treaty, and those who come to you wishing not to fight you, nor fight their relatives. Had GOD willed, He could have permitted them to fight against you. Therefore, if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them.

I hope people dont fall for this docmentary, the narrator isn't a scholar who give valid info about islam. Quran in noway tells Islam to kill innocent people niether the wife beating is totally against the sayings and action of prophet Mohammed.
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