[Red Moon]

These people sign contracts with the production company. They sign away there rights to how and what is used from the show. Derek would be have been well aware of what he was letting himself in for. If he gets annoyed by the Advert he only has himself to blame for signing the contract. I still maintain he we laugh at the advert when he sees it.

I never disagreed with you about the question of what he did with Saskia. In fact other than to maintain that he will laugh about it on the outside, I have never mentioned the incident in any of the posts.

But I will now. The housemates were having fun. Most had been drinking and people do silly things when they drinking so of which they might regret in the morning. The sensible people accept this and if they make a fool of themselves they laugh it off and move on. People who are over sensitive will feel ashamed of themselves and let it effect they life in some little way for a long time. Derek will laugh it off as a joke and move on. People in years to come might bark at him when he goes down the street.... all that shows is how sad they are as individuals. We as viewers have the same rights as those that the housemates signed away when they joined the show while the length of that contract runs. As soon as the contract is over we have no rights to get involved in the housemates personal lives unless they want us to. They have every right to be left alone just as an actor does on Eastenders when he leaves the set at the end of the day. Of course this will never happen while we have the tabloid press which thinks it has the right to invade the privacy of anyone that has ever appeared on television to make a quick buck.

I don't care if Derek wins or not, I'm not a Derek supporter. None of them really deserve the money this year, but maybe with the exception of Makosi if the story about her mother is true. I'm just feed up with all the housemate x to win stuff and I would like to see a bit more discussion than bitching on the forum.

It look's like I have got my way now.

I didn't describe the area of the Leeds that Science comes from as a ghetto. Science does that himself. I told you what it is like. I live less than 3 miles from the area of Leeds that Science comes from. The people there are the most wonderful people in Leeds. They help give this city it's great warmth and character. The cameras installed there have made such a difference to that part of the city by day. Unfortunately it retains it's image for crime and illegal substances are still available in the area. The EU and the City Council are investing strongly in the area to improve it. Slow this money is reaping rewards for the people in the area. However it will retain it's ghetto image as long as people that live there think of it in that way and promote it as such.

The people living in Sciences part of Leeds are being given opportunities to improve there lives. Money is in place to allow the private and public sector to work together and help bring about the much needed new jobs, businesses, investment, as well as the wider economic regeneration of that part of Leeds. The City has in place schemes to get rid of health and education inequalities in the area. Science doesn't come from a ghetto.

Less than a mile from where I am now is one of the real Leeds ghetto's. Where you don't get a job just because of your post code. Were the streets are no go area's at any time of the day. If you want to buy an illegal substance just ask and someone will point you to the nearest dealer. All Illegal substances are dealt in the open, after all what is there to fear from prison when you live in a prison camp already. The kids that grow up there have no hope unless they move away. Many of them would love to live where Science lives where the streets are safe by day. But they are trapped they because of lack of opportunities and hope.

I didn't set out to start a discussion about class... I was just pointing out the great difference between the two housemates in terms of background. I believe, and you might say naïvely, that different groups of people will support Derek compared to Science.

This isn't a classes less society and won't be so unless we as a people want it to be and decide to elect a Government which believes in that as a key aim. As long as a people we elect the torys of pseudo-torys then things will remain the same. Over the last few years the gap between the rich and the poor has grown and it will continue to grow until we demand a change.

Roll on that day when we can all live in as equals in this country with the same rights to quality education and equal rights for all. But while we have the political system we have now that is not going to happen, and I can't see it happening in my lifetime given the current trends to remove the liberties of the citizens of this country by the introduction of the Big Brother state by the back door.