Red Moon, thanks for the insight & personal info, I totally agree with you about the remote chane of a class-less society, I also know of schemes similar to the ones you mention, to help kids better themselves - I work for one as I live in a similar location as you describe. I find though, that the ones who would really benefit are dissuaded by their peers, to accept help from you or I from a government community scheme would be selling out! I've heard this from one brave lad who stood in the face of such slurs and is now a succesful I.T. programmer, and respected by those who mocked him, oblivious to the pain they put him through to begin with. I agree with the discussion & loved the Love Shack, it was superb in it's simplicity and fun, & took the heat out of a very moody & malicious feeling in the houe at that point following the plasma screen revelation. The choice of partners/dates were perfect - provoking both fun, & a chance to force enemies to the talking table - i.e. Saskia & Derek, hich is where this whole topic was born. Saskia gained revenge, & Derek, maybe intentionally or not made a decision to do it, or was tipsy or whatever, but he will be reminded of it for sure despite his "rights" after the show. we all have rights that are violated on a regular basis, I think he will regret it, he will get teased, but is big enough to laugh it off, even more-so if he should win, god I hope not, perish the thought. but before this gets too political or serious, - he will have a legacy of being the first man to bark for a woman on live TV for life, to add to his catalogue of after dinner speeches or whatever he does - I don't really care, I can't stand the man - whatever their circumstances - he has no right to speak to, or look at Science with hatred & disgust as he has done. Nobody has the right to look down on anyone else - an opinion is like a bum hole - everybody has one & to each their own! Good debate, serious issues raised but as you say until democracy changes & the mentality of the British stiff upper lip exists nothing will improve!
"Another Dog another day" - At least hunting got banned - long live the fox!!! "Woof Woof!"
