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Originally posted by Shaun
First a small thought before I quote some others, I totally agree with Lauren in that the majority of reasons for gay marriage is the legal side of it. Some members seem to be throwing the "religious" aspect back at us, but there hasn't been a good answer to the question:
What right does an unloving straight couple have to get married, and as a result have legal and monetary benefits and security, over a loving gay one?
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Originally posted by MrGaryy
Sorry Greg, I understand where you are coming from and like I've previously said I'm not particularly fighting for gay marriage or anything but that just makes such little sense to me. Should women be thankful men are tolerant of them? or blacks? Isn't the whole whole giust of the bible is that we should treat others as we would like to be treated, equality and loving people for who they are and all that jazz?
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Yeah; women and blacks should be thankful that men are tolerant to them because of the historical context. Women, gays, blacks, Jews and many other groups of people have historically been oppressed by white men; I think it's a good thing that these groups have gained more equality in recent times, if that makes sense, I didn't mean it in a "they should just be thankful for what they've got" kind of way. Yeah the Bible does teach that; but in practice, radical Christians perpetuated a lot of myths that caused these stereotypes as a result of their "interpretations" of the Bible.
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Hmm. I'm not sure if it's in the hands of women/blacks/jews/gays to be thankful. Moreso in the hands of the men/whites/christians/straights to be ashamed and apologetic.
History is indeed a vast thing, and after hundreds, even thousands of years of persecution towards all sorts of people, it is great that it's all behind us now - but there shouldn't be a sense of gratitude.
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Originally posted by andyman
Eastern europe is a vile dark sh*thole..
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Gays should love it then
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Hahahahahaha.
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You are the founder of the Anti-Racism club yet you laugh when someone makes fun of gays?
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As far as I'm aware, 08marsh wasn't being serious in what they said, I read it as a joke and therefore laughed; however; just because I am against racism does not automatically mean I'm against homophobia. I am, but that's neither here nor there.
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I think you'll want to be careful in future when quoting 08marsh as a source of informed, rational and unhateful (yet simultaneously hilarious) behaviour, because, going by the entirety of what he posts, he's not one of those traits, let alone all.
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A couple, regardless of the genders, who are wanting to get married in a church, surely love each other to go to the expense of arranging a wedding? Marriage is a serious commitment, people that marry and don't love each other are making a mockery of it. I don't see the point in marriage personally, most people who get married in a Church that I know aren't religious, it's hypocritical to get married in a church if you don't believe in the faith, or if you are homosexual, to get married in a church that openly disapproves of homosexuality. That is my issue with gay marriage; it's degrading and demeaning for all parties involved; the couple and the church.
White men aren't going to be ashamed or apologetic for things that their forefathers did; am I expected to feel humbled for things that I didn't do? No; but people who face inequalities in the work place
can be thankful for the improvements in equality that have been made in recent times; that's not to say that they should feel anything at all, but the option is there.