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Another article about Julie Burchill's programme about reality shows on Sky One on Sunday. Saskia and Jade are interviewed apparently.

Julie Burchill: I'm Julie get me out of here!

From 'Big Brother' to 'Wife Swap', Julie Burchill loves trash TV - and she wants to tell you why. John Walsh sits down with Britain's proudest couch potato

Published: 01 September 2005

It was a red-letter evening in Julie Burchill's house on Monday. There was, she says, "great excitement" in the air. Why? Because it was the final of America's Next Top Model, a reality TV show on the Living channel. "Did you see it?" she asks excitedly. No, I said, I'm bitterly sorry to have missed it. Later she asked, "You did watch Celebrity Love Island, didn't you?" Nope, I confessed, that passed me by as well. "For heaven's sake," she says, with a look of withering scorn, "What do you do in the evenings? Read improving books all night?"

Throughout her career, Ms Burchill has displayed great skill in suggesting that the personal and the universal are the same. If she likes (say) walnuts, she will argue that there is only one nut worth eating. If she leaves London to live in the provinces, she'll explain that only a madman would stay a minute longer in the metropolis. Now, if she spends every evening slumped in front of Big Brother or I'm a Celebrity..., then anyone who doesn't must be a snob or a plank. But it's still embarrassing to have to confess one's ignorance to the nation's most devoted "intellectual couch potato" as she describes herself in Reality TV Is Good For You, the first of four documentaries she's made for Sky One.

Her debut is a ringing defence of the genre that has spread like poison ivy over the television schedules in the last six years, bringing controversy, obloquy and delight in about equal measure. She is a passionately OTT advocate. "I believe opponents of reality TV are against life itself," she says, declaring that "TV snobs" attack the genre simply as a way of "sneering at the working class without voting Tory."

She wheels on John Humphrys to say that reality TV is "dishonest, demeaning and deeply and profoundly boring", and Andrew O'Hagan to describe Celebrity Love Island as "the lowest point in Hell", before advancing her counter-proposals. They are very simple. She likes reality TV because a) it makes working class people into stars, b) transforms the participants' lives, c) takes the wind out of celebrity sails and d) teaches you to be tolerant of people like Kemal and Derek on Big Brother 6.

Why did she feel it needed defending? "I just caught several little digs in the papers about Big Brother, and it got my goat because I knew they wanted to have a dig at the working class but couldn't. I'm not being chippy. I know that's what they meant."

But surely the tabloid papers are the forefront of the attack - aren't they're the voice of the Tory working class? "If you meet these boys from the tabloids," Julie says, "they're public schoolboys, like Kelvin MacKenzie. It doesn't matter what the paper is they're working for."

In the documentary she meets Jade Goody from Big Brother 2, the plump, soi-disante minger with the rudimentary grasp of geography, who represented a low point in public reaction. Objecting to her porcine features, her fleshiness, her loudness or all three, the press as good as called for her execution. She received death threats and police protection. Burchill confronts one of the scribes who wrote the incendiary pieces. "There seemed to be a kind of sexual loathing in the articles," says Burchill. "When I met Kevin O'Sullivan from the Mirror, he was sweating like a pig, and when he talked about Jade, it was like he was expressing sexual disgust for a woman. I said, 'You fancied her really, didn't you?', and he went, 'No, I was so repulsed by her', but as he said 'repulsed', he jerked his groin a bit, and I thought, repulsed, yeah..."

Ms Burchill is a very unfair arguer. If she can short-circuit an argument with imputations of lust, she will. To all my objections about reality TV - that it uses dim and vainglorious human beings as lab-rats - she argues that the participants enjoy a kind of working-class gap year. "I spoke to Saskia from Big Brother 6. She was immensely sensible. She said, 'I knew when I came out of the house there wouldn't be a limo waiting to whisk me off to Hollywood. I got some nice clothes, a couple of nice holidays. I've already got a nice boyfriend out of it. And soon I'm going to get back to work'. They're very sensible people."

Did she think the more attention-seeking housemates in BB demeaned themselves? Or did she think that there should be more entertainment involving vaginal wine-bottle insertion?

"Oh come on, John," says Ms Burchill. "I don't think that was demeaning, I thought she was a sweet girl. I got friends who behave like that. Haven't you?"

No I haven't. "You should get up here more often. I'm sorry, but I don't find it very unusual"........

............'Reality TV Is Good For You' will be shown on Sky One on Sunday 4 September

Rest of article - http://news.independent.co.uk/people...icle309531.ece