I know Ig, and we are all more tolerant by now, I hope, of all the other housemates frailties. After all, it was along time ago now
and everyone seems to have done just fine out of it.
In fact, I imagine that the BB2 11 have agonised about it a LOT less than we have.
ANY RODE UP - Back to the original thread!!
My views on the housemates in BB2
Penny-
I thought she was a very kind eccentric woman who would have driven anyone round the twist very quickly in an enclosed space. She did invade personal space and it is very discomfiting.
I think she is a natural carer, and it is really a shame that she left teaching. A sort mad, female version of Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society. Except it wasn't
'Oh Captain, my captain!'
It was
'Oh come on Paul, GRAB me!'
Stuart -
I think he made a grave error of judgement going in to the house. I think he is probably a very good man, but he came across as autocratic and inflexible. Probably a very successful businessman, but not a team player at all. On the plus side, his organisational skills have acheived a reunion and one or two more get togethers.
His wife and children obviously adore him, so I'm sure he is much nicer than he was portrayed as being.
Narinder:
I really liked her at the time, but having seen all the replays and watched her work her way around denegrating people who were essentially nice to her, I have tempered that opinion rather.
She is feisty and funny, but demanding of attention and incredibly intolerant of others. Her mimicry of other housemates was cruel.
She had a kind side to her as well I am sure, and she was funny. It is a very good thing for Brian that she left when she did though.
Bubble:
Like Paul, I actually liked him better after nomination and eviction.
I thought in the house he was loud and moody. I was completely flumoxed as to why Dean, Amma, Brian and Elizabeth were so enamoured of him. He thought he was far funnier than he was.
I also didn't see the great 'nobility' of trying to win the money for his daughter. Sorting himself out and being there for her, working hard and saving over 18 years like the rest of the human race would have been far more sensible and likely to work.
It annoyed me that everyone was so concerned for him, and how he felt, completely ignoring Paul's stress at being up for the 3rd time.
He redeemed himself by seeming to be an OK bloke during his Davina interview, but I wish he'd stop banging on about the vote against him being fixed. It wasn't.
Amma:
Not a lot to say really. She was very opinionated and had a big chip on her shoulder. She seemed angry and confrontational all the time, but it could have been editing. She was bright and knew she had under-utilised this, so she was defensive. She really didn't know where she was going with her life.
She was obviously a nice girl really. Helen really took to her, and I think she is a great judge of character!
Josh:
I don't know really. I think he would be charming to meet, and good company, but he was out of place in the house somehow. It was probably because of his late entry. He didn't have the courage to be himself, and defo shouldn't have shaved his head
. Nice bod though!
Mr Clarke...........
Where do I begin, to tell the story etc, etc.
No really, here's the deal:
A much loved and cherished oldest son, apple of his parents eye, and obviously adored by sister and brother.
Kind natured and brought up to be decent by someone with strong if rather narrow views.
The laddish bravado was I think developed after his breakup with Philippa, which had really shattered him. If you look through the 'rubber clad nurses' bit, he had two serious girlfriends.
Hence the 'I'm single, and that's the way I like it' comment in the audition. Bravado.
I remember reading at the time comments by his first girlfriend and his long term friends. Not a bad word anywhere.
In the house he decided to go for a laugh with Penny, whose response frightened the s**t out of him. If you look at Paul before he was nominated and when Penny wasn't around, he was an amiable, cheerful, fun individual. He got on well with most housemates. Then, Narinder told Penny he was boring, and started pulling the faces.
Amma told Bubble he had failed the fire task and let Helen take the blame. I actually have a clip where he tells Elizabeth, Dean and Helen immediately that was probably at least as much at fault when Helen said she thought she was. He had been in the house re: something to do with his ankle injury on crutches when Helen left Elizabeth alone with the fire.
Amma and Bubble then consistently nominated him for being dishonest. One thing he never really was.
We've talked about the Josh thing, and the Amma argument was pure self defence. he was being treated very unkindly by several of the housemates.
His behaviour with Helen was at first superficial flirting, and then as we all know, nature kicked in. I thought he behaved admirably, and protected Helen from her worst impulses. He was an absolute sweetie, and with her we saw his guard come down, he relaxed and showed his tender caring nature. BHLCS
He showed a lot of character in how he dealt with his nominations, and directed no recriminations at all towards his fellow housemates.
I liked Paul Clarke, I did.
Elizabeth:
I think I have to take a deep breath and try to rationalise my feelings. She was in the wrong gameshow.
She was like a Queens guide doing the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme. She thought she had been appointed house mother. She complained about it, but loved it. She felt superior to the others, and thought she was slumming it.
She annoyed me intensely, but never more so than when she held a victory parade after Paul's eviction, and told Helen to shut up snivelling.
Not to mention that night.
How controlled was that!
Dean:
Nice guy, would have been far better without Elizabeth. The voice of reason, and had a great dry sense of humour.
His music was a catalyst on the dates night for P&H.
Helen:
Amazing, natural, bright, happy loving girl with a bag full of insecurities. Desperate for love and approval, she is therfore vulnerable and could easily become a victim in the wrong relationship.
Absolutely guileless, and wonderfully uninhibited in her pursuit of Mr Clarke. I think she has picked the right person to protect and cherish her. A good match of dependance and protection. He's her lobster.
Brian:
Singular, and in a way it was unfair to put him in the house. It was obvious he would stand out by a mile. I did think he was sweet and funny initially, but I tired of the Evil Demons bit quite quickly. As I said earlier, I think if Narinder hadn't gone when she did, he might have been more vulnerable.
Putting Josh in after week two was bound to unsettle him. I did know exactly where Brian was coming from in his fears, he had felt safe until then. It wasn't fair on either of them.
I laughed with him, but I won't fib and say he was my favourite. He upset me by nominating Helen, and he was very focused on his own needs. I'm glad he has done well and established a career in television, but I really wanted Helen to win.
Never mind, it's all done and dusted now.