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Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes
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Originally posted by Tanser_Man
Well when your supporting your country you don't hold up a picture of Tony Blair do you. You hold up the national flag and show that your proud to be English. I don't understand how you can call it sinister?!
I've been to many an England game and its all lighthearted if anything.
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I wouldn't feel the need to do either. Rightly or wrongly, that flag is very strongly linked with Empire by many from outside the UK, and also by some ethnic minorities within it. In that aspect, it's a badge of shame in my eyes. I don't think 'past glories' of ethnic cleansing, slaverly and theft should be celebrated.
I don't take constant chanting of "No surrender to the I.R.A." as being particularly 'light-hearted'.
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It's kind of like when we sing " Two World Wars, One World Cup" to the Germans... it's now used as more of a joke to get the atmosphere going. And in my eyes that is light hearted.
If your doom and gloom about everything you'll die at a very early age.
A flag is a flag at the end of the day and forget the fact 'it is linked to'... nobody likes fairytales. The fact is England's flag is the St. George flag and in order to show your love for the country you hold that flag aloft and show your proud to be english, whether it be at a football game or at any other major celebration.
It isn't a badge of shame, i think thats a bit harsh to say that because it isn't. How about you name some of the good things that the flag represents?