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[rquote=2517796&tid=145438&author=NolasGirl][rquote=2517694&tid=145438&author=Len_Brennan][rquote=2517642&tid=145438&author=wushyboo]obviously i was watchin a completely didfferent BB to everyone else lisa did not bully anyone if i remember rightly charlie was the main hater of freddie and had nasty digs at him lisa as most of u keep pointin out just sat at the bus stop and smoked she only involved herself once everyone else harpooned her
bea actually get her self involved in serveral places turning on housemates cryin crocodile tears and generally being a big bitch [/rquote]

You must have only started watching about 6 weeks in then. Whether certain behaviour constitutes bullying or not - and a lot of nonsense has been said on here, about a few of the housemates in this regard - Lisa, with Kris & Karly as her lieutenants, treated Freddie appalingly, for no real reason, for a number of weeks as she felt invincible. He was not allowed open his mouth without having one or other of them telling him to shut up, even when he was being helpful or sensible. Lisa allowed nobody challenge her & built a group around her to do her biddding. The first we saw of this was when she angrily took a token for herself because a few, not all, of the others had used one for booze. She set herself up as someone to stay on the right side of & not to be crossed that night, in a very agressive manner. She then put down anyone who even hinted at challengng her legitimally, like Freddie or Marcus & constantly belittled them to her gang at the smoking area, especially Karly, which set the tone. This allowed her to stay largely in the background from then, only getting involved when she really had to or when she needed to stir it up again.[/rquote]

Spot on, both of your posts. Clearly some people have not been following the show in any detail. Maybe switching on and off, or watching one episode a week or something. It's not a matter of perspective...these were concrete events that happened.
The over the top comments in here about wanting to see HM's strung up...yes you people ARE missing the point.
The point is about bullying going unnoticed and not addressed the way it should be. Bullying is stopped and intervened in schools, workplaces etc all the time. So why shouldn't it be addressed on a national T.V. show with millions of viewers?[/rquote]
Lisa did not like Freddie from the start. He came from a privilaged background and is well educated, with a posh accent. Things that Lisa resented. He showed his breeding by his willingness to make friends with her she didnt give him that chance. Lisa is narrow minded - yes, aggresive -yes, backbiting - yes, bitter and jaded - yes, but none of these make her a bully. And yes I do know about bullying in schools - probably much more than most. But people have to accept strong conflicts of personalites and understand situations without screaming the word BULLY! Accept there are many truths and yours is just one. It doesn't make it fact!