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Old 29-09-2009, 11:29 PM #25
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[rquote=2614200&tid=148251&author=setanta][rquote=2613082&tid=148251&author=Dezzy][rquote=2612955&tid=148251&author=setanta][rquote=2612755&tid=148251&author=Dezzy][rquote=2612350&tid=148251&author=setanta]Poor mans radiohead.[/rquote]










Anyone who compares them to Radiohead is ignorant. They're nothing alike, at best Showbiz was similar to the general radiohead format but every album after that is radically different.[/rquote]

Of course I can compare them to a band that's influenced them hugely and who they can't come close to in terms of quality. Time and again Radiohead have seeked to reinvent themselves whereas Muse just lift ideas from other bands, namely Radiohead and Queen (bit of Smashing Pumpkins and Rage against the Machine in there too and alot of Depeche Mode) and then overcook it to the extreme, from Bellamy's mimicry of Yorke and Mercury, to the bands penchant for excess but without the substance of the bands they're trying to copy. They're a well polished and solid band but are cliche ridden pompous in comparison to the big boys. [/rquote]

Smashing pumpkins? DEPECHE MODE!? Rage against the machine? They're nothing alike. I've yet to hear a Muse song that's like Personal Jesus, or Dani California or Killing in the name of. I'll give you Queen and Radiohead as Radiohead was an INFLUENCE on the first album and Queen an INFLUENCE on the Resistance. But saying they've lifted ideas is just a little idiotic, I've yet to hear Radiohead write an album based around 1984 (The Resistance) or Queen doing an album about finding happiness at the end of the world(Absolution).

Muse is influenced by a lot of bands but so is Radiohead (from what I've heard their's includes the Smiths and Queen). No modern band exists without influences. Look at Oasis and Arctic Monkeys, their influences obviously include Beatles yet you haven't attacked them like Muse?

The morale here that influence is different from 'lifting ideas'. Muse have done things their own way and have themes and concepts to their music that Queen or Radiohead have never tried. For the first and last albums you can say that Radiohead and Queen were big influences respectively but Muse has different ideas and present their music in a different way which makes them different to the aforementioned bands. [/rquote]

Nah, they lift ideas from other bands - completely lacking in creativity themselves. I could post you songs from Depeche Mode and Rage against the Machine that sound so alike some of the songs that Muse have produced. I have no problem with a band having influences but I want to hear some depth and balls in what I listen to, and with Muse all I hear is a highly polished but souless band. Don't hear a band with them.... just a pastiche of other bands in creating heartless but entertaining songs. No depth to them. Excellen musicians but that's about it.

And don't get me started on the pretentions and pomposity that are on display with this new album. I mean, it's really slick but I have no idea who these guys are or what they're trying to say. Glossy souless music from a band who are deeply in love with themselves and their own self importance that's hugely influenced by Queen and Depeche Mode. It's like a tribute act.[/rquote]

Okay you're repeating yourself, first of The resistance isn't brainless or soulless it's about the book 1984 and themes such as surveilance and dictatorships and love. Every album has their own ideas. Matt Bellamy loves conspiricies and theories so they often serve the basis of a lot of his material. Every song they do has a meaning it's far from soulless or shallow.

You obviously don't know that much about them so don't ry to argue about stuff like this with me sicne I'm a huge fan I know a lot more about them then you do.

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