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If that is the case why has every attempt to produce life in the laboratory failed.

I already told you I believe in a God concept.

Who are you angry with, particular denominations or God.

Religion. Your ultra specific, lurid Christian god. Men using the god hypothesis as a tool to judge others and undermine the rights of women [Old Testament, anyone?].

But some people oppose God as well. God Allows that due to allowing this thing called Free Will.

A bit like giving a mass murderer a knife in one hand, and a gun in the other, while telling him ''now don't do anything nasty, lad!''.

That doctrine is known as pantheism

Your illustrating your faults by having to narrow things down to doctrines. I am well aware of Pantheism. There are also a dozen other systems of belief with the exact same structure, only under different names. I believe in a cosmic life force, for sure. Not a man in the clouds, but *a* God. I don't need a label for that.

This sounds very much along the lines of René Descartes

Yep, enjoy some of his work. Not all, but some.

Care to back that up with specific examples instead of hand waving?

It's obvious beyond belief. I have no specific quotes, but just by opening it there are numerous flaws. If God is so merciful, why do we have to fear him? What about all the other unfulfilled prophecies? What about love thy neighbor, but judge him? Then judge not? THEN we have Christians for the death penalty? Did ''thou shalt not kill'' have a footnote or something?

Here, knock yourself out :

http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...adictions.html

And yet as I mentioned before they all fit together.

Of course they do. It was an ongoing body of work written mostly by men who BELIEVE in the work. Previous books would influence the next.

Why do you call Jesus a zombie?

Simply a reference, in simple everyday English, to the resurrection.

out of his own volition chose to do God's will

I thought he WAS God? Why is he described as God one minuet, his son the next?

Once again care to back that up with an example?

Sure thing...

http://www.google.ie/#hl=en&source=h...2dd1507c58deba

Have fun with all of that. You cant deny certain passages allude to the earth being flat and confirm the Bible's HUMAN style of writing from a ye olde, HUMAN perspective.

What about the stars raining down upon the earth? Mentioned in Revelations, I believe, as well as other books. Of course we now know stars are not, in fact, tiny little white dots in the sky. The more you know.

Compare that to the life of Jesus and it is very specific.

Of course it is, that's because the people who scribed the life of Jesus READ and BELIEVED in the prophecies! And hence either intentionally or subconsciously shaped Jesus' life to perfectly fit that model!

Besides, ever hear of chance? Especially in a world where people were claiming to be Messiahs every single day?

humans are social annimals, could there be a reason for that?

Obviously. We have cognition. Thought. Emotion. Language. We write history and communicate ideas. Do I need to go on? That is not proof of your ultra specific, Christian god. The one who believes Homosexual act amounts to sin, yet God created love?

Now then, I am waiting for the man to come down and clear this matter up. Until then, I am not living by a dog earned, dark age text written, changed, written and changed again by dozens of men.