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Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!
Im talking about real people here who have been inspired by the teachings of Jesus and the Bible I saw him on TV the other week. You have the cheek to call that man deluded for his beliefs, shame on you.
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You don't need an excuse to be nice to people. His great works do not disprove the fact that the Bible is not factually accurate. There is no room for debate on that, it is simply a fact.
This is like Christians who say ''where do atheists get there morals from?''. So your telling me if it were not for the Bible you would be happy to kill?
One thing the major world religions do get right is ''treat others as you would like them to treat you''. The golden rule. Most of us are born with a natural sense of this.
Also, I provided numerous arguments LeatherTrumpet might or might not like to tackle. It's a shame he lets his religion down by resorting to abstract point dodging.
Here are some points in relation to using the Bible as a source for litetral truth :
* The Bible is a hodepodge collection of oral history, poetry, legend, myth, geneology, prophesy and visions, some of which date back to nomadic tribes in the Middle East. The problem with oral histories is that they change over time, and there is no way to verify what the original version of any of the accounts in the work might have looked like.
* The oral histories that were eventually included in the Bible were written down by different groups of people over centuries, and copied by hand numerous times, introducing changes and inaccuracies in the process as with any text that is copied (witness the variations in Shakespeare's folios).
* Numerous versions of chapters that have been included in the Bible by various groups (Jews, Gnostics and Christians) exist, and arbitrary decisions have been made as to which ones to include in what is accepted as the modern Christian version of the Bible. Chapters that have at one time or another been included and then removed from the Bible are called the Apocryopha. Some of these, most notably what are believed to be Gnostic texts, differ radically from the currently accepted version of the Bible.
* Both the Old Testament and the New have numerous internal contradictions that render any attempt to deem words of the Bible literally true impossible. For example, there are two different accounts of creation in the Old Testament and major contradictions among accounts of the life of Jesus in the New Testament.
* Linguistic and textual analysis of the Bible has demonstrated that some chapters have elisions or additions made by different authors, making a determination of the 'original' or 'true' version of the Bible problematic.
* There is ample evidence that some elisions and additions to some chapters were made for political reasons, or to express a religious viewpoint that differed from that held by the original author of the chapter.
* Historical sources show that the New Testament is factually inaccurate on matters including the reign of Herod and the Roman census.
And here are some of the many acts forbidden in this moral scripture. I doubt there is a man on the face of the earth who follows the Bible word for word. You cant. It's contradictory.
* Consuming blood, blood in meat is not exempt. (Genesis 9:4)
* Performing any work on the sabbath.(Exodus 20:10)
* Cooking a goat in its mothers milk.(Exodus 23:19)
* Eating fat.(Leviticus 3:17)
* The consumption of pork.(Leviticus 11:7-8)
* Eating a fellowship offering more than three days old.(Leviticus 19:5-8)
* Bestiality.(Leviticus 19:19)
* Planting more then one kind of seed in a field.(Leviticus 19:19)
* Wearing clothing woven of more then one kind of cloth.(Leviticus 19:19)
* Cutting the hair on the sides of your head(Leviticus 19:27)
* Tattoos.(Leviticus 19:28)
* Consulting a psychic or spiritualist.(Leviticus 19:31)
* Being a psychic or spiritualist, punishable by death.(Leviticus 20:27)
* Touching the dead carcass of a pig.(Deuteronomy 14:8)
* Eating aquatic creatures lacking fins or scales.(Deuteronomy 14:9-10)
* Transvestism.(Deuteronomy 22:5)
* Consuming the meat of strangled animals.(Acts 15:28-29)
* For women, speaking in church.(1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
* If you are a slave, disobedience.(Ephesians 6:5)
Have fun, kids!