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Originally Posted by Sticks
Now for some more clarifications
- The Bible says God created the world in six days not seven. He rested on the seventh
- Dinosaurs were present in the creation story, because as LeatherTrumpet cites, the book of Job mentions them, both Behemoth* and Leviathan
- The creationist belief is that dinosaurs were not able to adapt to a changed world after the global flood and became extinct.
- Creationism says that the fossils we find are the result of the global flood rather than annimals dying over eons
- If you actually look at the evidence for fossil man you will find that most of it is "reconstrucions" according to one source the actual finds would "fit into a coffin with room to spare"
- It is a poor argument to say evolution can not be true because mokeys and apes are not turning into people. Evolution teaches that all these animals and our selves descended from a common ancestor.
That said, currently I am wading through Charles Darwin's origin of species and some of the objections he does try and address.
My main problems with evolutionary theory is at the beginning and part of the process.
The origin is spontaneous generation, or creating life. With our finest methodology and most brilliant minds have yet to do this feat which somehow "just happend" in nature, an open system.
The other issue, and this relates to genetics which came after Darwin published. The process for change put forward is genetic mutation, however mutations by definition is an error in the copying of DNA. In nature we have yet to document an example of a good mutation **
I could also go on about radiometric rock dating and some of the assumptions made that are hard to justify but this is contentious and debated thouroughly on Talkorigins.
From the Biblical perspective, my contention is that Genesis is not the problem. The problem lies in Exodus 20:11, which states the reason why the world is created in six literal days. To give the Israelites the pattern for the working week and the sabbath.
Then again, although we hear of Christian and Islamic fundamentalists who refer to the six literal days of creation, I am not sure I ever hear of Jewish fundamentalists or any rabbis advocating that position.
* In some Bibles they have a footnote saying that Behemoth is probably a hippotamous, but if you look at the description of the tail being like a cedar (tree) it does not fit. One person took the decription in the Book of Job and read it out to school children, who said it sounded like one of the bracheosaurs possibbly diplodicus.
** We are aware of bacterial resistance to antibiotics, however this is to do with plasmids floating through the population and nothing to do with mutations |
"Dinosaurs were present in the creation story, because as LeatherTrumpet cites, the book of Job mentions them, both Behemoth* and Leviathan"
This isn't proof of the existence of dinasaurs during the time of man. "Creation stories" aren't science or proof. If you argue that YOUR froof is faith alone then that's fine but in a logical debate of science and proofs these "creation myths have no place. The bible is NOT a history book nor was it intended to be read as such.
If they'd described a animal with 16 heads and 5 arms that doesn't prove it existed. Besides people who wrote the bible spent most of their time living very locally. Any odd animal would have been described as a "monster".
Dinosaurs pre-date man by man millions of years. Palentologist never find human and dinosaure fossils in the same strata layers nor when they carbon date them do any of these two types of fossils over lap.
Do you think dinosaurs were around when the old or new testament were written?