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Originally Posted by ElProximo
Yes I do.
Yep, this was from the Hadith but it is definitely not out of context. Even after the Muslim apologist makes the most desperate attempts to retell the story as if it were Jews that deceived and 'attacked' Mohammad - it shows you that defenseless captives most certainly were to be killed.. by the Prophet himself and as directed by his 'angel'.
Yes, Prophetofdoom does a great job giving some segments of the Koran and Hadith dedicated to the apes.. er.. Jews:
(I agree that anyone interested should read the whole passages in their context to find out they really are as bad or even worse than the short-versions indicate)..
Yes, the Koran reads just like it was written by an arrogant man who wanted to make his own version of the Bible and be an awesome warlord doing even greater military victories than Moses.
I don't need to learn to do this. It is that man who decides he wants to take Islam more seriously and really learn and follow Islam with more dedication who will be reading the commentators as if they were 'Gospel accounts' and certainly as helpful in understanding the Koran.
This is who we are talking about - that guy.
Not me.
*I happen to think the Hadith are more reliable than the Koran but that is beside the point here.
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Once again you prove there really is no limit to your ignorance and intolerance, is it any wonder young Muslims turn to more extreme muslim teachers when they are met with such great examples of western virtues as yourself. Taking the odd line from a variety of Muslim sources totally out of context again.
Yeah ProphetofDoom is a wonderful site for the likes of yourself. In amongst the garbage I bet there is no mention of times when Mohammed spared the lives of his enemies.
As for your opinion that the Hadith is more reliable than the Qu'ran itself it simply shows your ignorance of what they both are. The Quran is the source of Allah's revelations to humanity, transmitted through his messenger, Muhammad. The Hadith is not considered a direct source of revelation; instead, it is supposed to contain the records of the traditions, practices and decision of the very earliest Muslim community. They are also a collection of the sayings and deeds of Muhammad. Unfortunately, the Hadith's accuracy and reliability is highly questionable. Even many Muslims disagree on the relative reliability of different Hadith collections.
Incidentally if Muslims are so bloodthirsty, how is it people who actually work with and amongst have nothing but respect for them?
What you should remember is throughout history even their enemies agree they are an honourable courteous chivalrous people. In Western history it is acknowledged that the example set by Muslim Warriors during the Crusades actually formed the basis of the Knights Code.
Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (Arabic: صلاح الدين يوسف بن أيوب, Kurdish: سه*لاحه*دین ئه*یوبی, Selah'edînê Eyubî) (c. 1138 — March 4, 1193), better known in the Western world as Saladin, was a Kurdish Muslim who became the first Ayyubid Sultan of Egypt and Syria. He led Islamic opposition to the Franks and other European Crusaders in the Levant. At the height of his power, he ruled over Egypt, Syria, Mesopotamia, Hejaz, and Yemen. He led the Muslims against the Crusaders and eventually recaptured Palestine from the Kingdom of Jerusalem after his victory in the Battle of Hattin.
As such, he is a notable figure in Kurdish, Arab, Persian, Turkish and Muslim culture. Saladin was a strict practitioner of
Sunni Islam. His chivalrous behavior was noted by Christian chroniclers, especially in the accounts of the siege of Kerak in Moab, and despite being the nemesis of the Crusaders he won the respect of many of them, including Richard the Lionheart; rather than becoming a hated figure in Europe, he became a celebrated example of the principles of chivalry.
Not only did he often give gifts to his prisoners before release, allowed knights to keeps arms and armour if they promised not to bear arms against him again prior to their release. He allowed passage for Christians into Jerusalem and other places of pilgrimage, he actively encouraged Jews to resettle in and around Jerusalem and other areas he recaptured from the Christians. Areas that the Christians had previously forced the Jewish peoples out of.
What a 'bad' Muslim you might say, but once again you would be wrong. In fact he followed the lessons of the Qu'ran to the letter. He exemplified the basic precepts of the Muslim Faith.
If you did read up on Islam you would know that just like there are many branches to Christianity, there are also several branches to the Muslim Faith, but hey its not my job to educate you. But please, when you start your next hate fuelled rants, include some real facts, not rubbish you picked up on a site set up simply to score points for its Christian owners.